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Auteur: Julia Tourianski
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À: System undo crew
Sujet: Re: [unSYSTEM] Silk Road Trial is starting.
Amir (regarding karpeles and hits comment):
https://twitter.com/olivierjanss/status/555889044618346498

I made sure he got directly in touch with the defence.







For the secrets and lies, my PGP key:
https://libbitcoin.dyne.org/julia_tourianski.pgp.asc

On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 7:50 AM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???> wrote:

> I do think Mark would be the type to order hits, not Ross. I saw an old
> interview and he doesn't have that temperament.
>
> On 01/16/2015 03:09 AM, Julia Tourianski wrote:
> > The entire thing has been shocking from the first day. Wish you guys
> > could be in the court with us. Nothing quite like watching it in person.
> >
> > On Jan 15, 2015 6:51 PM, "Amir Taaki" <genjix@???
> > <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>> wrote:
> >
> >     They're making a go of it.
> >     Before the PKK was seeking legal recognition for Kurds to be given a
> >     seat in the UN (de jure). But then in the 90s they increasingly
> adopted
> >     anti-state ideas and now they're more into making a confederation of
> >     autonomous cities/towns/regions, and operating decentralised as an
> >     independent nation (de facto). They're trying to create localised
> >     administration with staying power against central authorities.

> >
> >     On 01/16/2015 12:41 AM, brian@???
> >     <mailto:brian@openbazaar.org> wrote:
> >     > So is Rojava going to be a new country or what?
> >     >

> >     >

> >     >
> >     >     ----- Original Message -----
> >     >     From:
> >     >     "System undo crew" <unsystem@???
> >     <mailto:unsystem@lists.dyne.org>>

> >     >
> >     >     To:
> >     >     <unsystem@??? <mailto:unsystem@lists.dyne.org>>
> >     >     Cc:

> >     >
> >     >     Sent:
> >     >     Fri, 16 Jan 2015 00:25:12 +0100
> >     >     Subject:
> >     >     Re: [unSYSTEM] Silk Road Trial is starting.

> >     >

> >     >
> >     >     goes to show that with 7 billion individuals, anything can
> >     happen. I was
> >     >     certain kobane was going to fall within a week and it's been
> >     months.
> >     >     whether this is true or not, it's another reminder to give me
> >     confidence
> >     >     in the power for individuals.

> >     >
> >     >     btw this is a crazy day:

> >     >
> >     >     * 3 people shot dead in belgian by anti-terror police.

> >     >
> >     >     * David Cameron seeks cooperation of US president over
> encryption
> >     >     crackdown:

> >     >

> >
> http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/15/david-cameron-ask-us-barack-obama-help-tracking-islamist-extremists-online
> >     >     this comes after cameron's speech after the paris shootings
> about
> >     >     banning end to end encryption (making software like Darkwallet
> or
> >     >     OpenBazaar illegal):
> >     >     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_kqM0gn63M
> >     >
> >     >     * 2 italian girls captured in syria are freed after italian
> >     government
> >     >     pays a ransom of $12 million to the jihadis:

> >     >

> >
> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/15/two-italian-aid-workers-freed-syria
> >     >     here's the earlier article with their picture:
> >     >

> >
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2724701/Two-Italian-aid-workers-kidnapped-Islamist-militants-Syria-ignoring-parents-pleas-not-go.html
> >     >
> >     >     * Joint statement by the academic delegation who went to
> Rojava is
> >     >     released talking about their experience and describing the
> >     >     revolution there:

> >     >
> http://roarmag.org/2015/01/statement-academic-delegation-rojava/

> >     >
> >     >     On 01/16/2015 12:12 AM, Mark Lamb wrote:
> >     >     > When everyone made the point that "This trial is going to be
> >     hugely
> >     >     > important for the history of the internet" I completely
> >     agreed with
> >     >     > them. This trial is absolutely vital. However I didn't think
> >     it could
> >     >     > possibly go well!! Seems like it's going positively so far?

> >     >     >
> >     >     > On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:09 PM, Charlie 'Charles' Shrem
> >     >     > <cshrem@??? <mailto:cshrem@gmail.com>
> >     <mailto:cshrem@gmail.com <mailto:cshrem@gmail.com>>> wrote:

> >     >     >
> >     >     > I remember when they thought I was DPR, I was like "bitch
> >     please,
> >     >     > I'm not smart enough for that"

> >     >     >
> >     >     > On Thursday, January 15, 2015, Mark Lamb
> >     <markdavidlamb@??? <mailto:markdavidlamb@gmail.com>
> >     >     > <mailto:markdavidlamb@gmail.com
> >     <mailto:markdavidlamb@gmail.com>>> wrote:

> >     >     >
> >     >     > You beat me to posting that quote!

> >     >     >
> >     >     > This is so bizarre...

> >     >     >
> >     >     > Fascinating trial to follow!

> >     >     >
> >     >     > On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:04 PM, Amir Taaki
> >     <genjix@??? <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>>
> >     >     > wrote:

> >     >     >
> >     >     > Myth and legend enters history,
> >     >     > The Story of Dread Pirate Roberts
> >     >     > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHZGqBVBCRw>

> >     >     >

> >     >     >
> >     >     > On 01/15/2015 11:59 PM, Brian Hoffman wrote:
> >     >     > > Willy Bot Has now been implicated as DPR...

> >     >     > >
> >     >     > > On Jan 15, 2015, at 5:56 PM, Charlie 'Charles' Shrem
> >     >     <cshrem@??? <mailto:cshrem@gmail.com>
> >     >     > > <mailto:cshrem@gmail.com <mailto:cshrem@gmail.com>>>
> wrote:

> >     >     > >
> >     >     > >> Whoa!

> >     >     > >>
> >     >     > >> "Mutum Sigilum, a Karpeles holding company, had registered
> >     >     > >> silkroadmarket.org <http://silkroadmarket.org>
> >     <http://silkroadmarket.org>
> >     >     > <http://silkroadmarket.org> as a means to publicize
> >     >     > >> the site further."

> >     >     > >>

> >     >     > >>

> >     >

> >
> http://www.dailydot.com/crime/ross-ulbricht-silk-road-mark-karpales-fbi/
> >     >     > >>
> >     >     > >> On Thursday, January 15, 2015, Amir Taaki
> >     <genjix@??? <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>
> >     >     > >> <mailto:genjix@riseup.net <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>>>
> wrote:

> >     >     > >>
> >     >     > >> speechless

> >     >     > >>

> >     >     > >>

> >     >

> >
> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2sjuvu/defense_in_silk_road_trial_arguing_mark_karpeles/cnq7f3i
> >     >     > >>
> >     >     > >> On 01/15/2015 11:09 PM, Alicia Cruz wrote:
> >     >     > >> > whoa! plot twist! so karpeles is dpr!?

> >     >     > >> >
> >     >     > >> > On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 7:18 AM, Jaromil
> >     <jaromil@??? <mailto:jaromil@dyne.org>
> >     >     > >> <javascript:;>
> >     >     > >> > <mailto:jaromil@dyne.org <mailto:jaromil@dyne.org>
> >     <javascript:;>>> wrote:

> >     >     > >> >

> >     >     > >> >

> >     >     > >> >
> >     >     > >> > On 8 January 2015 13:32:53 CET, Aaron van Wirdum
> >     >     > >> > <aaronbitcoining@???
> >     <mailto:aaronbitcoining@gmail.com> <javascript:;>
> >     >     > >> <mailto:aaronbitcoining@gmail.com
> >     <mailto:aaronbitcoining@gmail.com> <javascript:;>>> wrote:

> >     >     > >> >

> >     >     > >> >
> >     >     > >> > >As for the line drawn between private property and
> >     >     > >> resources, IIRC this
> >     >     > >> > >line is drawn at *natural* resources, hence,
> >     >     > kind of the
> >     >     > >> > >geo-libertarian
> >     >     > >> > >ideal. But perhaps someone with more knowledge
> >     >     > on this
> >     >     > >> subject can
> >     >     > >> > >confirm
> >     >     > >> > >(or deny) this?

> >     >     > >> >

> >     >     > >> >
> >     >     > >> > some relevant literature on the topic of
> >     >     > "managing the
> >     >     > >> commons" was
> >     >     > >> > written by Elinor Ostrom. FWIW she also won a
> >     >     > nobel prize for it

> >     >     > >> >
> >     >     > >> > ciao
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> >     >     > >> >

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> >     >     > >>
> >     >     > >> --
> >     >     > >> Thanks,

> >     >     > >>
> >     >     > >> Charlie

> >     >     > >>
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> >     >     >
> >     >     > --
> >     >     > Thanks,

> >     >     >
> >     >     > Charlie

> >     >     >
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