Thank you, Hendrik.

That is what I assumed you would find. I’m not overreacting per se. I freely admit, I’ve not looked at the code to see how well it functions independently. I also do not know for certain that it is a recent addition. I do not recall seeing it in previous Wheezy releases as a default package.

My concern is two-fold:

1) Are they adding new code that was not in the original Wheezy release for the sake of Jesse upgrades?
2) Have they become so enamored of systemd that the maintainers see it as a solution to problems in Wheezy rather than patching the pre-existing code?

If any of these answers turn out to be “yes” using Wheezy may be problematic later. Obviously, if number either of these cases are true, it can lead to stability questions. It could also be true that it has been there all along and I somehow missed seeing it, although I’ve installed Wheezy many times and that seems unlikely.








From: Hendrik Boom
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎January‎ ‎5‎, ‎2015 ‎6‎:‎55‎ ‎PM
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On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 08:52:06PM +0000, t.j.duchene@??? wrote:
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> >IIRC, Wheezy is known to have systemd packages but they aren't (or
> >shouldn't be?) installed by default, probably as an early
> >preparation for full systemd in Jessie.

I've been running a wheezy server for some time, regularly doing all
the security upgrades. I just looked it over with aptitude, and the
only package I have installed with systemd in its nams is
systemd-login0. There are other systemd packages available, but none
of them are installed.

-- hendrik
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