On 29.12.2014 14:13, Richard wrote:

> Yes.
> And use a DE like Xfce for easier takeup.
> Needless complexity is a trap to delay the Devuan project.

IIRC, our primary goal is to bring back the original freedom of chioce,
and therefore support non-systemd (or maybe non-freedesktop.*) setups,
which Debian just dropped. But we'll also sit ontop of Debian (at least
for Jessie).

So I dont see any problem in releasing things when they're ready.
Maybe in the first stage, we just should work as an "overlay"
(like Gentoo folks understand that term - not sure whether just
an *additional* repo will be enough for that or a complete mirror
is required - perhaps somebody else here can clarify that).

For now, I'd suggest doing a rolling release, and maybe fork off
"stable" repos from time to time (which will only get bugfixes
for already existing packages, but no further changes).

Of course, we also should have an experimental/testing stage/repo
where fresh things come in quickly - but still based on jessie
(not entirely new packages).

With that model, we IMHO dont need those long discussions anymore,
if some things (eg. Gnome) get interesting enough for people,
they will care about them.

(for me, personally, Gnome is completely irrelevant - I'm more
concerned w/ getting rid of things like polkit, dbus, etc).


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