Hi TJ,

I totally agree. I'm creating vdev to be a replacement for udev in the
long term, but it will need a *lot* of testing before I'm comfortable
recommending it as the default device manager in *any* distribution.

That said, I hope to have an alpha package in a few days. It will be able
to run side-by-side with udev/eudev/mdev/static dev.

Jude
On Dec 29, 2014 3:10 PM, "T.J. Duchene" <t.j.duchene@???> wrote:

> If I might offer my two cents, I'm afraid that I must agree. Don't get me
> wrong, the vdev proposal is quite interesting, but for the first release, I
> believe the best route is to stick with building udev apart from the
> systemd source tree. To do it any other way will probably cause software
> issues that we do not presently have the developer resources to solve -
> especially if we are already going to be busy trying to compile or provide
> metadata for all the packages in Debian Jesse.
>
> On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 2:05 AM, dima <dima@???> wrote:
>
>>
>> You can't just switch to vdev, because many packages depend on libudev.
>> Only udev and eudev provide it.
>>
>> eudev is the only realistic option right now, because it's a drop-in
>> replacement. Moreover, it's the only udev alternative with feature-parity.
>>
>> By the way, I'm not sure whether vdev is ready for the prime time.
>>
>> On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 22:26:49 -0500
>> "Martinx - ジェームズ" <thiagocmartinsc@???> wrote:
>>
>> > Guys,
>> >
>> > I'm wondering here about what to do with `udev`, which is `systemd` in
>> > fact...
>> >
>> > What about this:
>> >
>> >
>> > 1- Rename current `udev` package to `systemd-udev`;
>> >
>> > 2- Add `vdev`;
>> >
>> > 3- Add `eudev`;
>> >
>> > 4- Add `mdev`;
>> >
>> > 4- Create a new Metapackage called `udev`, that will Depends on `eudev |
>> > vdev | mdev | systemd-udev`.
>> >
>> >
>> > This will be very similar to the new `init` Metapackage on Jessie, that
>> > Depends on `systemd-sysv | sysvinit-core | upstart`.
>> >
>> > What do you guys think?
>> >
>> > Also, I would like to know more about the quality of `eudev` and if it
>> > worth keeping it, since `systemd` developers will remove its "netlink"
>> > support (am I right)? Then, `systemd-udev` will depends on `systemd` as
>> > PID1 in the future (through KDBUS, if I'm not wrong), making it very
>> hard
>> > to keep `eudev` up to date. Source:
>> >
>> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-May/019657.html
>> >
>> > I would like to evaluate `vdev` soon as possible.
>> >
>> > Best!
>> > Thiago
>>
>>
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