On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 10:50:07PM -0500, Clarke Sideroad wrote:
> I think this whole CLI - GUI thing causes a lot more polarization
> than it should.
> There are I'm sure a lot of people like myself who use the linux
> desktop day to day, have no problem dealing with the command line or
> administering a few boxes.
> A lot of desktop users are long term geeks, nerds and computer
> weirdos who don't fit into the Gnome/Redhat "Future of the Desktop"
> mold.

If I can give my 2 cents to this discussion, I would like to point out
that the "Conquest of the Desktop Market" is just a nonsense, and I
believe that RedHat knows it very well. GNU/Linux has never taken off
on desktops, and probably never will, first because the battle has
already been won by Apple and second because desktops will practically
disappear (meaning that they will represent an even smaller fraction
of the overall market), replaced by smartphones and smart-tvs.

Let's focus on the niche in which GNU/Linux has still the possibility
to say a word, i.e. the server and backend world. This is exactly what
RedHat is doing, in the end, with the systemd nonsense: one init to
rule them all. They know very well that the market that counts for
GNU/Linux is on the server side, and the systemd nonsense is the last
strike to effectively wipe out all its competitors there. And they
have already made a big step in that direction, mainly thanks to the
silent and quick adoption of the systemd nonsense by virtually all the
distros which might interfere with the plan, including SuSe and
Debian.

Let's try to focus on making a init-free debian-like distro for the
moment, even at the cost of temporarily loosing some functionality
(e.g., GNOME) and/or some users (e.g., GNOMErs). IMHO, it's far better
(and maybe easier) to find tricks and hacks to let GNOME run on a
functioning Devuan later on, than delaying the release of a
functioning Devuan just to have GNOME on it since from the
beginning. Too many projects have already been drowned by the GNOME
nonsense....

My2Cents

KatolaZ


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