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Autor: Sean Davis
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To: Martinx - ジェームズ
CC: dng@lists.dyne.org, m_maass
Betreff: Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement
I would love to see jack as a default or as an optional package with sane
defaults. If pulse is really needed,it works as a jack client. I have to
kill -9 pulse frequently as it leaks badly and won't die; jack only goes
crazy when I misconfigure it.
On Dec 25, 2014 9:15 PM, "Martinx - ジェームズ" <thiagocmartinsc@???>
wrote:

> Can you guys believe this:
>
> A Desktop with 6G of RAM running Ubuntu 14.10 with systemd + pulseaudio:
>
>
> USER       PID %CPU *%MEM*    VSZ   RSS TTY      STAT START   TIME COMMAND
> userzyx   25830   0.3    *75.0*   6171772 4487884 ?     S<l  Dez16  46:11
> /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog

>
>
> Pulseaudio is consuming *75% of my RAM MEMORY!!!* WTF IS THIS THING??!!!
> And I'm not playing a single music!
>
> I still do not believe that Debian was taken over by the shit that come
> out of Lennart / RedHat (sorry about the bad words). And the Linux
> community will put almost all the eggs into the systemd basket!! For God's
> sake, what a fuck is wrong with those people??? Well, I really don't care
> anymore, we have Devuan! YAY!    ^_^

>
> I was trusting my professional life on Debian team and now, this crap...
> The good of open source is that we have the power to make forks... Whew!
>
> You guys can count on me to make Devuan, the BEST Linux distribution EVER!
>
> Lets include apulse and also, jackd. And *kick* pulseaudio alongside with
> systemd.
>
> Honestly, I don't even care anymore about systemd, neither as an option,
> it is impossible to trust on this thing, because of Lennart past projects
> (and obvious, because of systemd terrible / creepy architecture). I still
> open to uselessd + new udev, if it make easier to keep compatibility with
> upstream Debian while we need to keep syncing with it. Also, I like the
> idea of CGroup Process, if uselessd can achieve that (i.e, control/isolate
> process using Linux CGroups), then, it is a great thing! There are space
> for a new Init System and systemd is NOT it.
>
> Happy new year! :-)
>
> On 25 December 2014 at 19:27, m_maass <m_maass@???> wrote:
>
>> Dear Friends,
>>
>> my motivation for use apulse is the follow:
>> i like simple systems, witch do what they say and no more.
>> Sometime i need sound from my PC, and i use/have ALSA.
>> Some software, especialy actual skype work only with PA or with this
>> nice part of sofware.
>>
>> I do not need "a network-capable sound server
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_server> hosted at freedesktop.org
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedesktop.org>." (from
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PulseAudio).
>> This is the same problem as with systemd, the software do mutch more that
>> i want.
>>
>> The discussion about the suggestion had opened my eyes, that replacement
>> is not the best way, we should have both, if someone need the extra
>> functionality/addons.( for me are thes unwanted addons). But how?
>>
>> 1. Idealy programs sould use ALSA and optionaly PA.
>> 2. forget the software that is only PA capable and use some alternative
>> or make it ALSA capable.
>> 2.1. use apulse, apulse make for each known application that do only work
>> with PA one wrapper script, that replace the original program.
>> 3. some other ideas?
>>
>> The problem is similar to this with systemd, if we replace ALSA->arbitary
>> init, and PA-> systemd, apulse ~>systemd-shim, skype->gnome.
>>
>> With devuan we make the same steps, right?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>>
>> On 24.12.2014 18:13, m_maass wrote:
>>
>> Dear Freedom lovers,
>>
>> i would suggest to you this project
>> https://github.com/i-rinat/apulse
>>
>> and would say thank for your efforts.
>>
>> Cheers, and Happy Grav'Mass!
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
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