Can you guys believe this:

A Desktop with 6G of RAM running Ubuntu 14.10 with systemd + pulseaudio:

USER       PID %CPU *%MEM*    VSZ   RSS TTY      STAT START   TIME COMMAND
userzyx   25830   0.3    *75.0*   6171772 4487884 ?     S<l  Dez16  46:11
/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog

Pulseaudio is consuming *75% of my RAM MEMORY!!!* WTF IS THIS THING??!!!
And I'm not playing a single music!

I still do not believe that Debian was taken over by the shit that come out
of Lennart / RedHat (sorry about the bad words). And the Linux community
will put almost all the eggs into the systemd basket!! For God's sake, what
a fuck is wrong with those people??? Well, I really don't care anymore, we
have Devuan! YAY!    ^_^

I was trusting my professional life on Debian team and now, this crap...
The good of open source is that we have the power to make forks... Whew!

You guys can count on me to make Devuan, the BEST Linux distribution EVER!

Lets include apulse and also, jackd. And *kick* pulseaudio alongside with
systemd.

Honestly, I don't even care anymore about systemd, neither as an option, it
is impossible to trust on this thing, because of Lennart past projects (and
obvious, because of systemd terrible / creepy architecture). I still open
to uselessd + new udev, if it make easier to keep compatibility with
upstream Debian while we need to keep syncing with it. Also, I like the
idea of CGroup Process, if uselessd can achieve that (i.e, control/isolate
process using Linux CGroups), then, it is a great thing! There are space
for a new Init System and systemd is NOT it.

Happy new year! :-)

On 25 December 2014 at 19:27, m_maass <m_maass@???> wrote:

> Dear Friends,
>
> my motivation for use apulse is the follow:
> i like simple systems, witch do what they say and no more.
> Sometime i need sound from my PC, and i use/have ALSA.
> Some software, especialy actual skype work only with PA or with this nice
> part of sofware.
>
> I do not need "a network-capable sound server
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_server> hosted at freedesktop.org
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedesktop.org>." (from
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PulseAudio).
> This is the same problem as with systemd, the software do mutch more that
> i want.
>
> The discussion about the suggestion had opened my eyes, that replacement
> is not the best way, we should have both, if someone need the extra
> functionality/addons.( for me are thes unwanted addons). But how?
>
> 1. Idealy programs sould use ALSA and optionaly PA.
> 2. forget the software that is only PA capable and use some alternative or
> make it ALSA capable.
> 2.1. use apulse, apulse make for each known application that do only work
> with PA one wrapper script, that replace the original program.
> 3. some other ideas?
>
> The problem is similar to this with systemd, if we replace ALSA->arbitary
> init, and PA-> systemd, apulse ~>systemd-shim, skype->gnome.
>
> With devuan we make the same steps, right?
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> On 24.12.2014 18:13, m_maass wrote:
>
> Dear Freedom lovers,
>
> i would suggest to you this project
> https://github.com/i-rinat/apulse
>
> and would say thank for your efforts.
>
> Cheers, and Happy Grav'Mass!
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
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