I love the idea behind it. Im sure its existence will cause a few wrinkles
in the matrix and jimmies will be rustled.

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 4:51 AM, Tim Patrick <judoman589@???> wrote:

> Who are the people behind this interesting project? I've heard some say
> assange is, is that true?
>
> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Robert Jakob <rsjakob@???> wrote:
>
>> It is interesting and I'm interested in watching it unfold. You could
>> also think about adding in a bounty feature. Like a journalist gets
>> information about a company laundering drug money, but they have no proof.
>> The journalist provides enough information to get the hackers started.
>> They post the bounty, the community crowd-funds it, the hackers go to
>> work. If they can get the proof, they collect the bounty or it will
>> incentivize whistle blowers. Either way, you guys should go to a country
>> that won't extradite you, because this is potentially even more
>> provocative than Silk Road. Hackers and whistle blowers get more jails time
>> than murders and rapists.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Caleb James DeLisle <cjd@???>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think you misread it, the statement is "people are bad so if we wave
>>> some greenbacks in their faces, they're gonna leak like a motherfucker"
>>> Anyway the organizations which have the most psychopaths are also the
>>> funniest when they leak
>>>
>>> On 12/24/2014 11:52 PM, snakecharmr wrote:
>>> > "5% of the general population are psychopaths"
>>> >
>>> > This reeks of the authoritarian christian ethic that we need
>>> government because people are bad. A story that tells how humans are evil
>>> because of "original sin" or "psychopathy" or "ecological destruction" can
>>> easily be used as a justification for killing or abusing humans. Have you
>>> ever met a fundamentalist that hates people because of sin?
>>> >
>>> > Don't get me wrong, I know there is such a thing as psychopathy, but
>>> physiologically it generally corresponds to a fucked up oxytocin system
>>> (usually related to childhood malnourishment/abuse) and using psychopathy
>>> as a excuse to control people sounds psychopathic to me.
>>> >
>>> > Ever heard of this scam? It's called a protection racket. It goes like
>>> this: Joe and Moe work together, but act like they don't. Joe comes and
>>> threatens to hurt you if you don't give him money. Moe comes by and says
>>> "Watch out for this Joe guy, he's a real crook. Gimme some money and I'll
>>> keep him off your back". Then you pay one or the other and they both run
>>> off and share the funds...Long story short, the people who are trying to
>>> protect you from psychopaths might themselves be psychopaths. They can even
>>> feed your ego to help you believe their lies "You're a good person, but
>>> there's loooots of bad people out there"...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > As far as preventing double sale of information, that's basically the
>>> insoluble problem with digital rights management: information is
>>> replicable. If you pay $1M to keep someone's mouth shut and you don't know
>>> who/where they are, there's no incentive for them not to release it, sell
>>> it to someone else or just extort you again for it.
>>> >
>>> > I don't know if this slur thing is a good idea or not, but I don't buy
>>> into the "people are bad so don't empower them" story.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Caleb James DeLisle <cjd@???> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Nothing, that's the brilliance of it. If goldman's can out-bid anyone
>>> >> else then it's not leaking, just extortion. Goldman's keeps a secret
>>> but
>>> >> they have to pay their own money to the release crew.
>>> >> What is a good question is if they get hit again by another crew, can
>>> >> they claim that the first crew went back on their promise? Maybe it
>>> will
>>> >> iron itself out as a plain extortion racket but the optimum size of a
>>> crew
>>> >> will never be that large so when they scale up, they become weak and
>>> >> vulnerable.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 12/24/2014 11:12 PM, Robert Jakob wrote:
>>> >>> Oh ok. I get it. So they build reputations for releasing valuable
>>> >>> information and people contribute towards the group for each hack? I
>>> may
>>> >>> have missed it but will you have a user rating system or how does
>>> that
>>> >>> work? What's stopping say, Goldman Sachs from buying back their own
>>> >>> information? Because you said the same information can't be sold
>>> twice.
>>> >>> On Dec 24, 2014 3:07 PM, "Caleb James DeLisle" <cjd@???> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Lone wolves will be the exception, the rule will be highly
>>> disciplined
>>> >>>> highly
>>> >>>> regulated "release groups". Imagine lulzsec but with intelligence
>>> agency
>>> >>>> level
>>> >>>> financing. These groups will have the promotion capability to
>>> inform the
>>> >>>> world
>>> >>>> about the presence of information and garner the funding support.
>>> >>>> Individual
>>> >>>> leakers will need to approach a release group for distribution
>>> otherwise
>>> >>>> they
>>> >>>> will not be taken seriously.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On 12/24/2014 09:43 PM, Robert Jakob wrote:
>>> >>>>> I like the idea, but how do you know the information has any value?
>>> >>>>> Also, how do you prevent people from reselling information?
>>> >>>>> On Dec 24, 2014 1:32 PM, "Caleb James DeLisle" <cjd@???>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> ``
>>> >>>>>> Its estimated that 5% of the general population are psychopaths.
>>> >>>>>> Introducing financial incentive in an anonymous framework will
>>> produce a
>>> >>>>>> greater yield of leaked information than from say the ideology
>>> that
>>> >>>> drove
>>> >>>>>> patriots like Edward Snowden. For every idealist willing to
>>> selflessly
>>> >>>>>> sacrifice their freedom, assets and even risk their lives for a
>>> greater
>>> >>>>>> good, there are 1000 psychopaths willing to anonymously sell out
>>> their
>>> >>>>>> peers for material gain.
>>> >>>>>> ''
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Capitalist self-annihilation by the vampire zombie of Ayn Rand.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> http://slur.io/
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> brb making popcorn
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