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Autore: Caleb James DeLisle
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To: System undo crew
Oggetto: Re: [unSYSTEM] oh fuck yes
Nothing, that's the brilliance of it. If goldman's can out-bid anyone
else then it's not leaking, just extortion. Goldman's keeps a secret but
they have to pay their own money to the release crew.
What is a good question is if they get hit again by another crew, can
they claim that the first crew went back on their promise? Maybe it will
iron itself out as a plain extortion racket but the optimum size of a crew
will never be that large so when they scale up, they become weak and
vulnerable.



On 12/24/2014 11:12 PM, Robert Jakob wrote:
> Oh ok. I get it. So they build reputations for releasing valuable
> information and people contribute towards the group for each hack? I may
> have missed it but will you have a user rating system or how does that
> work? What's stopping say, Goldman Sachs from buying back their own
> information? Because you said the same information can't be sold twice.
> On Dec 24, 2014 3:07 PM, "Caleb James DeLisle" <cjd@???> wrote:
>
>> Lone wolves will be the exception, the rule will be highly disciplined
>> highly
>> regulated "release groups". Imagine lulzsec but with intelligence agency
>> level
>> financing. These groups will have the promotion capability to inform the
>> world
>> about the presence of information and garner the funding support.
>> Individual
>> leakers will need to approach a release group for distribution otherwise
>> they
>> will not be taken seriously.
>>
>>
>> On 12/24/2014 09:43 PM, Robert Jakob wrote:
>>> I like the idea, but how do you know the information has any value?
>>> Also, how do you prevent people from reselling information?
>>> On Dec 24, 2014 1:32 PM, "Caleb James DeLisle" <cjd@???> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ``
>>>> Its estimated that 5% of the general population are psychopaths.
>>>> Introducing financial incentive in an anonymous framework will produce a
>>>> greater yield of leaked information than from say the ideology that
>> drove
>>>> patriots like Edward Snowden. For every idealist willing to selflessly
>>>> sacrifice their freedom, assets and even risk their lives for a greater
>>>> good, there are 1000 psychopaths willing to anonymously sell out their
>>>> peers for material gain.
>>>> ''
>>>>
>>>> Capitalist self-annihilation by the vampire zombie of Ayn Rand.
>>>>
>>>> http://slur.io/
>>>>
>>>> brb making popcorn
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