The deeper you go, the less you actually will get done to make a
difference I think. You indeed can go mad with focusing just on the
levels without acting conciously. Its why the people doing most good
or just stuff that works, are those who just live with nature and do
what they do, planting trees after a lifetime its a forest ;) or like
Jason and Shawns Outpost. Keep on keeping on, without getting too deep
in the rabbit.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2014/12/the_world_is_not_falling_apart_the_trend_lines_reveal_an_increasingly_peaceful.single.html

2014-12-24 15:38 GMT+01.00, Ray@easybitz <ray@???>:
> Guy who did heliophant is aware of ancient prophecy, seems like he has read
> the book of enoch. Good stuff, saw alot of symbolism there. We are drowning
> in a aea of lies such that the only *safe way to convey truth is with
> fiction.
>
> Goethe figured this out when he saw that newtonian optics would not be
> broken and that his color therory would not be accepted thus he wrote
> faust.
>
> One of the things you learn is that all humans are religious. Past a certain
> age We all have dogma we hold to. The depths of the rabbit hole are when you
> finally admit this to yourself and see how the *smartest people in the room
> are hopelessly regurgitating inane religious lies passed off as proven and
> observed scientific fact. It is when you admit that the 8 year old redneck
> farmer kid is wrong and u with your fancy college degree are not just wrong,
> but utterly stupid and insane as well.
>
> This is a hard pill to swallow and one must be swallowed for each area of
> knowledge for the *infection has struck ever corner of humanity.
>
> Level2 almost no one here will ever dive into so dont sweat 7. Something
> inaide u knows you'll want more and more and we're not willin to pay the
> price.. Emotionally it can drive u mad.
>
> Xfactor on brah
>
>
>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 2:10 PM, Damian <i3inary@???> wrote:
>>
>> heliofant is level ∞
>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 9:12 AM, ben <colypse@???> wrote:
>>> Haha :) I loose those friends that dont dare to say anything and just
>>> follow the status-quo, but that is ok with me. I welcome death, but I
>>> teach kids new stuff like permaculture, isothermal compression,
>>> promote renewable energy and basic income as new institutions like the
>>> notions of money. That we can change and will do it. Anything else for
>>> me is determinism and is just lazyness as I see it. Monkey see monkey
>>> do, and its so easy for people just copy pasting others negative
>>> thought and action patterns for them selfs withouth contemplating over
>>> it. I try to act civil/antiviolent, so that my friends in the army
>>> dont even want to be in the army anymore, and I actually know Im
>>> succeeding in this. Its inspiring to live because I know Im going to
>>> die and are looking forward to it :)
>>>
>>> 2014-12-23 10:15 GMT+01.00, snakecharmr <snakecharmr1024@???>:
>>> > lol what lvl is this on?
>>> >
>>> > http://www.heliofant.com/
>>> >
>>> > lvl implies a canonical ordering on things, but if there's more than
>>> > one
>>> > dimension, then there's usually only a partial ordering (which one is
>>> > bigger, (0,1) or (1,0)?)
>>> >
>>> > personally I like goats, but ppl got differing opinions on
>>> > ungulates...im
>>> > down with sun-priestcraft, no offense to the darkies...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Dec 23, 2014, at 12:29 AM, TecZ ombie <techzombie432@???>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> women have the vast majority of the cojones of humanity now.
>>> >> Have they gotten tougher or have we males just gotten all that
>>> >> weaker?
>>> >>
>>> >> up for debate, but no doubt the male portion has gotten much much
>>> >> weaker
>>> >> while or women folk have not lost as much courage.
>>> >> Everywhere we look we see our women taking the lead, while we do
>>> >> nothing.
>>> >> Shameful...
>>> >>
>>> >> The divine feminine has been crushed, what we see now is it's long
>>> >> gone
>>> >> corpse struggling under the weight of thousands of years of crushing
>>> >> left
>>> >> brain dominant spiritual corruption.
>>> >>
>>> >> Again we are back to the spiritual, something or someone is inverting
>>> >> the
>>> >> natural order and it has left humanity vulnerable. but we're getting
>>> >> ahead
>>> >> of ourselves here. yall need to think bout lvl2 before anything
>>> >> deeper
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Troy Benjegerdes <hozer@???>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 01:25:33PM -0500, TecZ ombie wrote:
>>> >> > lol no.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > peaceful and 100% non-violent is what I advocate.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > by balls I mean the massive cajones to conquer your emotional state
>>> >> > enough
>>> >> > to admit that we are drowning in a sea of lies and everything you
>>> >> > know
>>> >> > is
>>> >> > 100% wrong. to lose all your friends and light a small flame in the
>>> >> > cold
>>> >> > hailing night to guide you to where you know not. that is the price
>>> >> > you
>>> >> > pay
>>> >> > to go down the rabbit hole.
>>> >>
>>> >> Try this for a theory: The problem is not lighting the flames. It is
>>> >> making
>>> >> a conscious choice to put them out once in awhile.
>>> >>
>>> >> When is the last time you sat in a cold hailing night and let the
>>> >> spirit
>>> >> in
>>> >> the darkness guide you, instead trying by all means to maintain an
>>> >> eternal
>>> >> flame.
>>> >>
>>> >> Even the metaphors we use imply a coercive demand of the earth and
>>> >> nature
>>> >> that
>>> >> we must have light, lest we be terrified of the dark.
>>> >>
>>> >> What if even just one of those that we make as the evil other to
>>> >> strive
>>> >> against
>>> >> that create money from nothing and appear to be controlling the world
>>> >> do
>>> >> it
>>> >> not out of greed but out of compassion and love.. How would you know?
>>> >> How
>>> >> would
>>> >> we engage them in a productive discussion on how to educate the masses
>>> >> to
>>> >> wake
>>> >> from their delusions?
>>> >>
>>> >> Where is the divine feminine in this discussion of Cajones, and did
>>> >> we
>>> >> ever
>>> >> stop to listen to the dark chaos and see of what she desires?
>>> >>
>>> >>
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