No, software is not going to "solve all our problems." But it will
help with some. And it is not gonna help you grow balls or a spine on
a really deep human level. But maybe I am getting my context wrong...

Pretty sure I am on the same page here.

I don't know your background TecZ but I think we could all learn more
about software development while also growing a new pair.

ciao

TecZ:
> Expecting software to solve all our problems is a huge mistake, one
> we are idealistic coders always make. Software cannot replace
> balls. If we had balls we would not need the blockchain. As it is
> right now all the blockchain can do is diffuse the need for balls
> so they don't have to come from a single source which is easy to
> take down.
>
> balls aside, someone who "gets it" has to build this software.
> Satoshi got it. Notice how social he is... No one in this scene can
> really handle the truth which is why it will not evolve past level
> one. Only a spiritual understanding to the problem can create the
> tools necessary to help fix it.
>
> If satoshi told the whole truth he'd prob just get a "cool story
> bro" like the one dude who tol the truth here once got. Lol
>
>
>> On Dec 22, 2014, at 6:46 AM, odinn
>> <odinn.cyberguerrilla@???> wrote:
>>
> tl;dr?
>
> If you can get to binary this shit ain't gonna matter much.
>
> TecZ:
>>>> odinn, Ok, point made. You are happy with being on level 1.01
>>>> of the rabbit hole. Congrats on that .01 Considering how
>>>> little you said with so many words i think you have a fine
>>>> future in politics. Bravo.
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone here ready for some actual truth? Send a sign
>>>> please. Gettin' real lonely on level 7 ova ere.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 22, 2014, at 5:23 AM, odinn
>>>>> <odinn.cyberguerrilla@???> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TecZ:
>>>>>>> Is it really about money?
>>>>
>>>> No, it is what is done with the store of value... The debt
>>>> and the nature of the effort which is related to that debt
>>>> and how any resultant conflict is directed in a way is turned
>>>> into business which helps those who generally are charged
>>>> with managing investments and large scale business holdings.
>>>>
>>>> I have lived abroad for a few years and seen some ugly
>>>> things. In that regard I am no different than a lot of
>>>> people. Here then I will keep it short...
>>>>
>>>> I am trying to keep this very short because of my back and it
>>>> is eaarly in the AM here where I am at. I think the best way
>>>> to sum it up is from the International. What's interesting
>>>> is how so on point they made it in this movie.... so I'll
>>>> just focus on what the actor said to the lady who was
>>>> inquiring of him right before he was assassinated.
>>>> Interestingly, the assassin was himself supposed to be
>>>> assassinated, by a police officer. In The International,
>>>> all the lower level players were intended to be disposable ~
>>>> there was supposed to be some sort of sick, disposable
>>>> system, which actually was more or less true to how it
>>>> usually works out....
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, here is how the line was described in the movie:
>>>>
>>>> " [In explaining the "true" nature of banking in the world]
>>>> The IBBC is a bank. Their objective isn't to control the
>>>> conflict, it's to control the debt that the conflict
>>>> produces.
>>>>
>>>> You see, the real value of a conflict, the true value, is in
>>>> the debt that it creates. You control the debt, you control
>>>> everything. You find this upsetting, yes? But this is the
>>>> very essence of the banking industry, to make us all, whether
>>>> we be nations or individuals, slaves to debt. ~ Umberto
>>>> Calvini"
>>>>
>>>> It struck me after watching that film some while back, that
>>>> either a long-term mercenary or a very experienced politician
>>>> (and perhaps a banker) may have been given a few moments with
>>>> the pen for those lines. But who can say such things,
>>>> really?
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand, this line, as it was written, from the
>>>> perspective of the character Umberto Calvini, was quite true
>>>> in 2009 when The International was made. Today, with
>>>> hundreds of d-cent currency-ish systems in use around the
>>>> world today, and with 2015 marking the inflection point of
>>>> the release (and further development of) anonymity tech the
>>>> likes of which we have not yet seen, it is safe to say that
>>>> the notion of "slaves to debt" as a line in a film must be
>>>> reinterpreted. Indeed, what that means, and what is a store
>>>> of value, and whether we wish to be a slave to it at all,
>>>> need not be ceaselessly in someone else's hands, but should
>>>> be much more in our own and further, we should be closer to
>>>> being each able to enabling others to snap their own
>>>> shackles. The notion of slavery need not merely be tied to
>>>> "isms," but we may as one example conclude that the old and
>>>> traditional notion of slavery is the result of a lack of
>>>> compassion, and sharing. and that it is more pervasive than
>>>> we'd like to admit ~ while at the same time examining that
>>>> the new and multiple meanings of slavery also imply that we
>>>> have the ability to break them all.
>>>>
>>>> Today, the debt is in our minds.
>>>>
>>>> Respect,
>>>>
>>>> -O
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Serious question...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the central bankers can create trillions at will
>>>>>>> then is money really their motivation ? Or just a tool
>>>>>>> they use to motivate the greed of corporations, middle
>>>>>>> management and survival instinct of the peseantry?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the central bankers don't value money then why do
>>>>>>> they do what they do? Fear? Greed? Greed for what? Why
>>>>>>> do they want so much control? To calm their fear???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then we are just back at the beginning of their psycho
>>>>>>> mind trip. If they are making plans over the course of
>>>>>>> 100 years then they are motivated by far deeper
>>>>>>> things...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Those of us that keep babbling on about money and
>>>>>>> corporations have zero hope of ever getting to the
>>>>>>> bottom of the problem here. We need to acknowledge that
>>>>>>> this is a spiritual battle...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lets all go and do some REAL research about history and
>>>>>>> keep the 180 degree rule in mind, else we will fritter
>>>>>>> away the chance bitcoin is giving us to affect real
>>>>>>> change. Hoping this reaches at least ONE person who can
>>>>>>> read between the lines....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Peace
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2014, at 11:26 PM, snakecharmr
>>>>>>>> <snakecharmr1024@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Everybody wants freedom for themselves. Tyrants
>>>>>>>> aren't willing to give freedom to others, usually
>>>>>>>> because they are terrified of everyone (thinking of
>>>>>>>> Stalin's paranoia).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think turning up the resolution beyond "rich vs
>>>>>>>> poor" will demonstrate more complex strategies at
>>>>>>>> work here. When governments propose "taxing the
>>>>>>>> rich", it's usually the 0.0001% who actually write
>>>>>>>> the laws (not necessarily gov) asking the bottom 80%
>>>>>>>> to support putting obstacles up to block the top 10%
>>>>>>>> (the controller's competitors) from actually
>>>>>>>> overtaking them. So "taxing the rich" doesn't tax all
>>>>>>>> the rich, because the people who write the laws
>>>>>>>> always put loopholes in for them and their friends.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If the money supply is fair, not rigged, then the
>>>>>>>> only way the super wealthy can cash in on their
>>>>>>>> wealth is by giving it to others in exchange for
>>>>>>>> goods. Then they have less wealth and the only way
>>>>>>>> for them to get it back is to do things for other
>>>>>>>> people. If they never do things for other people,
>>>>>>>> then they go bankrupt after a while.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Money is just supposed to encode how much you've
>>>>>>>> contributed to the economy minus how much you've
>>>>>>>> taken. It's not perfect, and the fiat system skews it
>>>>>>>> beyond recognition, but that's the idea of money.
>>>>>>>> It's just memory.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2014, at 6:16 AM, lalu
>>>>>>>>> <lalu@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't think the number of rules is the problem,
>>>>>>>>> more so the common belief that the pile of $ they
>>>>>>>>> sit on is worth something ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Once this change, we can start building a world in
>>>>>>>>> which we measure success not only by reading GDP
>>>>>>>>> charts.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Long road ahead though !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 20. 12. 14 20:45, ben wrote: Are we to think
>>>>>>>>>> that lower taxes on the rich is going to make
>>>>>>>>>> them give to the poor of their free will now? I
>>>>>>>>>> just dont think that giving have ever been a
>>>>>>>>>> strong tendency for the rich, and I dont see how
>>>>>>>>>> that will make the wealthgap shrink?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Im for less regulations by all means, but can
>>>>>>>>>> somebody enlighten me on how giving the people
>>>>>>>>>> that already are fucking up the world with
>>>>>>>>>> corporations running amok less rules is going to
>>>>>>>>>> fix this?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2014-12-19 18:52 GMT+01.00, Amir Taaki
>>>>>>>>>> <genjix@???>:
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/rise-new-libertarians-meet-britains-next-political-generation-1469233
>>>>
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