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Autor: odinn
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To: unsystem
Betreff: Re: [unSYSTEM] Article about rise of libertarianism in the UK
Ben, when you do shit that is extremely revolutionary, it is very
likely that it will not involve anything violent at all, and yet might
(I say might) inspire numbers of people to act if only they ever heard
about it it or had access to it - even if they never even heard of
you. Then, ~ they will not put handcuffs on you, they will cut off
your hands and then cut off your fingers. For good measure they may
then chop off your head and then neatly position your head on a table
and cut your hair and take a picture of you with the new president as
he pisses his pants before he, too is assassinated.

Do something that is somewhat or quite revolutionary, but not
extremely revolutionary, and you may be dead (or jailed forever and a
day) and thus, there remains the possibility that you could actually
live to see it happen. Don't compromise anyway. If it would be a
difference between a website and a p2p decentralized, distributed
application, despite the difficulties of having the latter be ready to
go and what comes after, choose the latter. It will be interesting to
see what comes next.

2015 will be fun. Things we haven't seen yet.

You say you are down to 4% friends because of your "views already" I
can only assume that means you had to at some point in the past take
some sort of nonviolent position, somewhere. Probably. Maybe you
took a hardline street stance too, but my guess if I had to: You had
to take a nonviolent stance and it seemed piss poor to people who
wanted more action more often. I could be totally off, totally wrong,
but I'll throw a guess.

So guessing that, let me go further....

I had choices to make. Some people in a scope. Big, scary, ugly,
seriously powerful people who had made horrible decisions in numerous
countries. And I chose not to! And some number of years down the
road I think I am better for it. You could say I am wrong but I have
chosen my path. My burden feels less. Since then I have taught kids
self defense. I've coded for humanity. Look at me! http://abis.io
(It's not for real yet but eventually it will be in wallets and stuff)
I'm on a couple Foundations. My back is hurt like hell but it will
get better.

I advocate for self defense but by the same token I think there is
much we can do with a reasonable use of tech and a much better
treatment of each other. That's too simplistic maybe... but not a bad
start.

Cheers and hope you enjoy time with others at end of year. If not then
find whoever you can and show them a hand or a smile.

ciao,

- -O

ben:
> I am down to 4% friends because of my views already so I think Im
> doing something right TecZ ;) Im experimenting with making
> collective realities mechanisms like the ones we have in money
> implemented in my posts on different social media and trying to
> find ways to use the politically and religiously propaganda towards
> free clean energy and universal basic income in Norway.
>
> 2014-12-22 21:49 GMT+01.00, Troy Benjegerdes <hozer@???>:
>> On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 01:25:33PM -0500, TecZ ombie wrote:
>>> lol no.
>>>
>>> peaceful and 100% non-violent is what I advocate.
>>>
>>> by balls I mean the massive cajones to conquer your emotional
>>> state enough to admit that we are drowning in a sea of lies and
>>> everything you know is 100% wrong. to lose all your friends and
>>> light a small flame in the cold hailing night to guide you to
>>> where you know not. that is the price you pay to go down the
>>> rabbit hole.
>>
>> Try this for a theory: The problem is not lighting the flames. It
>> is making a conscious choice to put them out once in awhile.
>>
>> When is the last time you sat in a cold hailing night and let the
>> spirit in
>>
>> the darkness guide you, instead trying by all means to maintain
>> an eternal flame.
>>
>> Even the metaphors we use imply a coercive demand of the earth
>> and nature that we must have light, lest we be terrified of the
>> dark.
>>
>> What if even just one of those that we make as the evil other to
>> strive against that create money from nothing and appear to be
>> controlling the world do it not out of greed but out of
>> compassion and love.. How would you know? How would we engage
>> them in a productive discussion on how to educate the masses to
>> wake from their delusions?
>>
>> Where is the divine feminine in this discussion of Cajones, and
>> did we ever stop to listen to the dark chaos and see of what she
>> desires?
>>
>>
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