Are your balls statement meaning take up guns and going to war TecZ?
Because it kind of sounds like it. And violence always fail. The only
people winning/profits then is the military industry complex which if
I am not mistaken was the exact industry Satoshi said we could get
some leverage on with bitcoin.

I dont mean to offend your level 7 ;) Just saying that everyone that
took up guns and started killing people got millions of civilians
killed because of their revolutionary extremist acts.

2014-12-22 13:04 GMT+01.00, TecZ <techzombie432@???>:
> Expecting software to solve all our problems is a huge mistake, one we are
> idealistic coders always make. Software cannot replace balls. If we had
> balls we would not need the blockchain. As it is right now all the
> blockchain can do is diffuse the need for balls so they don't have to come
> from a single source which is easy to take down.
>
> balls aside, someone who "gets it" has to build this software. Satoshi got
> it. Notice how social he is... No one in this scene can really handle the
> truth which is why it will not evolve past level one. Only a spiritual
> understanding to the problem can create the tools necessary to help fix it.
>
> If satoshi told the whole truth he'd prob just get a "cool story bro" like
> the one dude who tol the truth here once got. Lol
>
>
>> On Dec 22, 2014, at 6:46 AM, odinn <odinn.cyberguerrilla@???>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >> tl;dr?
>>
>> If you can get to binary this shit ain't gonna matter much.
>>
>> TecZ:
>>> odinn, Ok, point made. You are happy with being on level 1.01 of
>>> the rabbit hole. Congrats on that .01 Considering how little you
>>> said with so many words i think you have a fine future in politics.
>>> Bravo.
>>>
>>> Is anyone here ready for some actual truth? Send a sign please.
>>> Gettin' real lonely on level 7 ova ere.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Dec 22, 2014, at 5:23 AM, odinn
>>>> <odinn.cyberguerrilla@???> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> TecZ:
>>>>>> Is it really about money?
>>>
>>> No, it is what is done with the store of value... The debt and the
>>> nature of the effort which is related to that debt and how any
>>> resultant conflict is directed in a way is turned into business
>>> which helps those who generally are charged with managing
>>> investments and large scale business holdings.
>>>
>>> I have lived abroad for a few years and seen some ugly things. In
>>> that regard I am no different than a lot of people. Here then I
>>> will keep it short...
>>>
>>> I am trying to keep this very short because of my back and it is
>>> eaarly in the AM here where I am at. I think the best way to sum
>>> it up is from the International. What's interesting is how so on
>>> point they made it in this movie.... so I'll just focus on what the
>>> actor said to the lady who was inquiring of him right before he
>>> was assassinated. Interestingly, the assassin was himself supposed
>>> to be assassinated, by a police officer. In The International, all
>>> the lower level players were intended to be disposable ~ there was
>>> supposed to be some sort of sick, disposable system, which
>>> actually was more or less true to how it usually works out....
>>>
>>> Anyway, here is how the line was described in the movie:
>>>
>>> " [In explaining the "true" nature of banking in the world] The
>>> IBBC is a bank. Their objective isn't to control the conflict, it's
>>> to control the debt that the conflict produces.
>>>
>>> You see, the real value of a conflict, the true value, is in the
>>> debt that it creates. You control the debt, you control
>>> everything. You find this upsetting, yes? But this is the very
>>> essence of the banking industry, to make us all, whether we be
>>> nations or individuals, slaves to debt. ~ Umberto Calvini"
>>>
>>> It struck me after watching that film some while back, that either
>>> a long-term mercenary or a very experienced politician (and perhaps
>>> a banker) may have been given a few moments with the pen for those
>>> lines. But who can say such things, really?
>>>
>>> On the other hand, this line, as it was written, from the
>>> perspective of the character Umberto Calvini, was quite true in
>>> 2009 when The International was made. Today, with hundreds of
>>> d-cent currency-ish systems in use around the world today, and with
>>> 2015 marking the inflection point of the release (and further
>>> development of) anonymity tech the likes of which we have not yet
>>> seen, it is safe to say that the notion of "slaves to debt" as a
>>> line in a film must be reinterpreted. Indeed, what that means, and
>>> what is a store of value, and whether we wish to be a slave to it
>>> at all, need not be ceaselessly in someone else's hands, but should
>>> be much more in our own and further, we should be closer to being
>>> each able to enabling others to snap their own shackles. The
>>> notion of slavery need not merely be tied to "isms," but we may as
>>> one example conclude that the old and traditional notion of slavery
>>> is the result of a lack of compassion, and sharing. and that it is
>>> more pervasive than we'd like to admit ~ while at the same time
>>> examining that the new and multiple meanings of slavery also imply
>>> that we have the ability to break them all.
>>>
>>> Today, the debt is in our minds.
>>>
>>> Respect,
>>>
>>> -O
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Serious question...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the central bankers can create trillions at will then is
>>>>>> money really their motivation ? Or just a tool they use to
>>>>>> motivate the greed of corporations, middle management and
>>>>>> survival instinct of the peseantry?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the central bankers don't value money then why do they do
>>>>>> what they do? Fear? Greed? Greed for what? Why do they want
>>>>>> so much control? To calm their fear???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then we are just back at the beginning of their psycho mind
>>>>>> trip. If they are making plans over the course of 100 years
>>>>>> then they are motivated by far deeper things...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Those of us that keep babbling on about money and
>>>>>> corporations have zero hope of ever getting to the bottom of
>>>>>> the problem here. We need to acknowledge that this is a
>>>>>> spiritual battle...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lets all go and do some REAL research about history and keep
>>>>>> the 180 degree rule in mind, else we will fritter away the
>>>>>> chance bitcoin is giving us to affect real change. Hoping
>>>>>> this reaches at least ONE person who can read between the
>>>>>> lines....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peace
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2014, at 11:26 PM, snakecharmr
>>>>>>> <snakecharmr1024@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Everybody wants freedom for themselves. Tyrants aren't
>>>>>>> willing to give freedom to others, usually because they are
>>>>>>> terrified of everyone (thinking of Stalin's paranoia).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think turning up the resolution beyond "rich vs poor"
>>>>>>> will demonstrate more complex strategies at work here.
>>>>>>> When governments propose "taxing the rich", it's usually
>>>>>>> the 0.0001% who actually write the laws (not necessarily
>>>>>>> gov) asking the bottom 80% to support putting obstacles up
>>>>>>> to block the top 10% (the controller's competitors) from
>>>>>>> actually overtaking them. So "taxing the rich" doesn't tax
>>>>>>> all the rich, because the people who write the laws always
>>>>>>> put loopholes in for them and their friends.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the money supply is fair, not rigged, then the only way
>>>>>>> the super wealthy can cash in on their wealth is by giving
>>>>>>> it to others in exchange for goods. Then they have less
>>>>>>> wealth and the only way for them to get it back is to do
>>>>>>> things for other people. If they never do things for other
>>>>>>> people, then they go bankrupt after a while.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Money is just supposed to encode how much you've
>>>>>>> contributed to the economy minus how much you've taken.
>>>>>>> It's not perfect, and the fiat system skews it beyond
>>>>>>> recognition, but that's the idea of money. It's just
>>>>>>> memory.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2014, at 6:16 AM, lalu <lalu@???>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't think the number of rules is the problem, more so
>>>>>>>> the common belief that the pile of $ they sit on is worth
>>>>>>>> something ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Once this change, we can start building a world in which
>>>>>>>> we measure success not only by reading GDP charts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Long road ahead though !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 20. 12. 14 20:45, ben wrote: Are we to think that
>>>>>>>>> lower taxes on the rich is going to make them give to
>>>>>>>>> the poor of their free will now? I just dont think that
>>>>>>>>> giving have ever been a strong tendency for the rich,
>>>>>>>>> and I dont see how that will make the wealthgap
>>>>>>>>> shrink?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Im for less regulations by all means, but can somebody
>>>>>>>>> enlighten me on how giving the people that already are
>>>>>>>>> fucking up the world with corporations running amok
>>>>>>>>> less rules is going to fix this?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2014-12-19 18:52 GMT+01.00, Amir Taaki
>>>>>>>>> <genjix@???>:
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/rise-new-libertarians-meet-britains-next-political-generation-1469233
>>>
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