tl;dr?

If you can get to binary this shit ain't gonna matter much.

TecZ:
> odinn, Ok, point made. You are happy with being on level 1.01 of
> the rabbit hole. Congrats on that .01 Considering how little you
> said with so many words i think you have a fine future in politics.
> Bravo.
>
> Is anyone here ready for some actual truth? Send a sign please.
> Gettin' real lonely on level 7 ova ere.
>
>
>> On Dec 22, 2014, at 5:23 AM, odinn
>> <odinn.cyberguerrilla@???> wrote:
>>
>
>
> TecZ:
>>>> Is it really about money?
>
> No, it is what is done with the store of value... The debt and the
> nature of the effort which is related to that debt and how any
> resultant conflict is directed in a way is turned into business
> which helps those who generally are charged with managing
> investments and large scale business holdings.
>
> I have lived abroad for a few years and seen some ugly things. In
> that regard I am no different than a lot of people. Here then I
> will keep it short...
>
> I am trying to keep this very short because of my back and it is
> eaarly in the AM here where I am at. I think the best way to sum
> it up is from the International. What's interesting is how so on
> point they made it in this movie.... so I'll just focus on what the
> actor said to the lady who was inquiring of him right before he
> was assassinated. Interestingly, the assassin was himself supposed
> to be assassinated, by a police officer. In The International, all
> the lower level players were intended to be disposable ~ there was
> supposed to be some sort of sick, disposable system, which
> actually was more or less true to how it usually works out....
>
> Anyway, here is how the line was described in the movie:
>
> " [In explaining the "true" nature of banking in the world] The
> IBBC is a bank. Their objective isn't to control the conflict, it's
> to control the debt that the conflict produces.
>
> You see, the real value of a conflict, the true value, is in the
> debt that it creates. You control the debt, you control
> everything. You find this upsetting, yes? But this is the very
> essence of the banking industry, to make us all, whether we be
> nations or individuals, slaves to debt. ~ Umberto Calvini"
>
> It struck me after watching that film some while back, that either
> a long-term mercenary or a very experienced politician (and perhaps
> a banker) may have been given a few moments with the pen for those
> lines. But who can say such things, really?
>
> On the other hand, this line, as it was written, from the
> perspective of the character Umberto Calvini, was quite true in
> 2009 when The International was made. Today, with hundreds of
> d-cent currency-ish systems in use around the world today, and with
> 2015 marking the inflection point of the release (and further
> development of) anonymity tech the likes of which we have not yet
> seen, it is safe to say that the notion of "slaves to debt" as a
> line in a film must be reinterpreted. Indeed, what that means, and
> what is a store of value, and whether we wish to be a slave to it
> at all, need not be ceaselessly in someone else's hands, but should
> be much more in our own and further, we should be closer to being
> each able to enabling others to snap their own shackles. The
> notion of slavery need not merely be tied to "isms," but we may as
> one example conclude that the old and traditional notion of slavery
> is the result of a lack of compassion, and sharing. and that it is
> more pervasive than we'd like to admit ~ while at the same time
> examining that the new and multiple meanings of slavery also imply
> that we have the ability to break them all.
>
> Today, the debt is in our minds.
>
> Respect,
>
> -O
>
>>>>
>>>> Serious question...
>>>>
>>>> If the central bankers can create trillions at will then is
>>>> money really their motivation ? Or just a tool they use to
>>>> motivate the greed of corporations, middle management and
>>>> survival instinct of the peseantry?
>>>>
>>>> If the central bankers don't value money then why do they do
>>>> what they do? Fear? Greed? Greed for what? Why do they want
>>>> so much control? To calm their fear???
>>>>
>>>> Then we are just back at the beginning of their psycho mind
>>>> trip. If they are making plans over the course of 100 years
>>>> then they are motivated by far deeper things...
>>>>
>>>> Those of us that keep babbling on about money and
>>>> corporations have zero hope of ever getting to the bottom of
>>>> the problem here. We need to acknowledge that this is a
>>>> spiritual battle...
>>>>
>>>> Lets all go and do some REAL research about history and keep
>>>> the 180 degree rule in mind, else we will fritter away the
>>>> chance bitcoin is giving us to affect real change. Hoping
>>>> this reaches at least ONE person who can read between the
>>>> lines....
>>>>
>>>> Peace
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 21, 2014, at 11:26 PM, snakecharmr
>>>>> <snakecharmr1024@???> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Everybody wants freedom for themselves. Tyrants aren't
>>>>> willing to give freedom to others, usually because they are
>>>>> terrified of everyone (thinking of Stalin's paranoia).
>>>>>
>>>>> I think turning up the resolution beyond "rich vs poor"
>>>>> will demonstrate more complex strategies at work here.
>>>>> When governments propose "taxing the rich", it's usually
>>>>> the 0.0001% who actually write the laws (not necessarily
>>>>> gov) asking the bottom 80% to support putting obstacles up
>>>>> to block the top 10% (the controller's competitors) from
>>>>> actually overtaking them. So "taxing the rich" doesn't tax
>>>>> all the rich, because the people who write the laws always
>>>>> put loopholes in for them and their friends.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the money supply is fair, not rigged, then the only way
>>>>> the super wealthy can cash in on their wealth is by giving
>>>>> it to others in exchange for goods. Then they have less
>>>>> wealth and the only way for them to get it back is to do
>>>>> things for other people. If they never do things for other
>>>>> people, then they go bankrupt after a while.
>>>>>
>>>>> Money is just supposed to encode how much you've
>>>>> contributed to the economy minus how much you've taken.
>>>>> It's not perfect, and the fiat system skews it beyond
>>>>> recognition, but that's the idea of money. It's just
>>>>> memory.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2014, at 6:16 AM, lalu <lalu@???>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think the number of rules is the problem, more so
>>>>>> the common belief that the pile of $ they sit on is worth
>>>>>> something ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once this change, we can start building a world in which
>>>>>> we measure success not only by reading GDP charts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Long road ahead though !
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 20. 12. 14 20:45, ben wrote: Are we to think that
>>>>>>> lower taxes on the rich is going to make them give to
>>>>>>> the poor of their free will now? I just dont think that
>>>>>>> giving have ever been a strong tendency for the rich,
>>>>>>> and I dont see how that will make the wealthgap
>>>>>>> shrink?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Im for less regulations by all means, but can somebody
>>>>>>> enlighten me on how giving the people that already are
>>>>>>> fucking up the world with corporations running amok
>>>>>>> less rules is going to fix this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2014-12-19 18:52 GMT+01.00, Amir Taaki
>>>>>>> <genjix@???>:
>>>>>>>> http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/rise-new-libertarians-meet-britains-next-political-generation-1469233
>
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