On 12/08/2014 10:36 AM, Noel Torres wrote:
> On Saturday, 6 de December de 2014 18:33:29 hellekin escribió:
>> *** No I'm not. I'm proposing to call things for what they are. Given
>
> No, you are giving an opinion. One that many of us share, but only an opinion.
>
> non-free software is non-free. That's a fact.
>
> It being antisocial is an opinion. One that e.g. non-free software programmers
> do not share.
>
> Remember that a fact does not depend on any point of view. "Antisocial"
> depends on the point of view of who defines what "social" is.
>
> Don't be misleaded by feelings
>
*** Thank you for your correction. Indeed, what "they are" depends on
my relative point of view, given radical constructivism, and in that
case, "global society".

I use anti-social and society in the sense given by Heather Marsh in her
glossary, and developed in her writings: [0]

Society: Interdependent relationships of people who have agreed to be
bound by a social contract with each other. All people belong to many
different societies of every size. The root of society is a mother
giving birth to a child, creating the first unequal dependency from
which interdependent society was built. Trade relationships have a root
of two presumed equal men shaking hands which results in a trade
economy, not a society. Professional societies are only societies if
they include the nurturing, education and support of those who wish to
enter them.

Anti-social: instrumental to dissociation or the destruction of society
and social relationships.

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hk

[0] https://georgiebc.wordpress.com/category/glossary/

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