What did RMS say? I emailed him awhile ago and he didn't respond at all.

Linux userland didn't always use crap like DBUS, policykit, etc. One
could just revive the old branches, one by one. They worked fine.
Often had better performance. The code still exists in a findable form
thanks to debian publishing source ISOs every release.

Why stay on the linux kernel: hardware support and PaX/GRsecurity.
Those are the reasons.

Linus loves systemd aswell. All the linux hire-ups are fucks these
days (maybe they always were). Maybe the kernel needs to be forked
eventually too (GRSecurity basically does this with their epic patch,
so it's not impossible).

Maybe a STABLE branch of the linux kernel might then exist again!

I think they're letting their politics drive them. RMS, Linus, etc all
agree with "social justice", and Lennart promotes this aswell, so it's
comfortable. Just look at who they married:

Linus: Google search
... That's about it, no one else married anyone...
But they don't strive towards pretty women, and definitly not cute
young girls. No, that would be "opressive" and "objectifying". So they
go with large karate champs (I have no idea how these two concepts
melded into one personification, but they did). They take their life
where there is the possibility of being happy and having a pretty
girl, and they throw that away.


On 12/3/14, Zak Fenton <zak.fenton@???> wrote:
> It's a really interesting idea (whether it's BSD-on-Linux or a new
> user-land) and I'd like to discuss it further, but I don't think here is the
> place.
>
> I may email you privately with some thoughts, but if you're looking for a
> broader perspective I'd try http://forum.osdev.org/ or a more general Linux
> forum or mailing list.
>
> ________________________________
>> From: chris@???
>> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 09:11:31 +0000
>> To: dng@???
>> Subject: [Dng] Is forking enough?
>>
>> Policy kit is mired in systemd via pam/systemd deps and in any case I
>> can see policy kit / console kit being subsumed by systemd before very
>> long
>>
>> Then there's dbus, seems like a good idea to allow processes to send
>> messages to each other - except there is no security, an unprivileged
>> user can bring a system down or do a whole bunch of stuff...
>>
>> And this is just a few examples...
>>
>> After emailing RMS apparently he seems quite happy with systemd taking
>> over the Linux user land and not only that he "never really agreed with
>> the Unix philosophy" in any case.
>>
>> I really do wonder now if its time to throw the cuckoo out of the bath
>> and sit a new userland entirely on top of the Linux kernel...
>>
>> Why the Linux kernel and not just BSD ??
>>
>> well flame all you want but the Linux kernel still has way better
>> hardware support...
>>
>> If only there were a pure BSD userland on top of a Linux kernel somewhere!
>>
>>
>>
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