So he just picked something that actually had a standard he could
follow when he was small.
Now that he's big-time he's happy to jettison that and FK all the
people that relied on his thing (being unix).
What a son of a bitch.
On 12/3/14, chris <chris@???> wrote:
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>
> I never was a supporter of the "Unix philosophy", I just decided
> to make a Unix-compatible system.
>
> previously he stated
>
> > If I want to run GNU/Linux instead of systemd/Linux
>
> The systems that contain systemd are also GNU/Linux systems.
>
>
>
> On 03/12/14 12:04, Gregory Smith wrote:
>> What did RMS say? I emailed him awhile ago and he didn't respond at all.
>>
>> Linux userland didn't always use crap like DBUS, policykit, etc. One
>> could just revive the old branches, one by one. They worked fine.
>> Often had better performance. The code still exists in a findable form
>> thanks to debian publishing source ISOs every release.
>>
>> Why stay on the linux kernel: hardware support and PaX/GRsecurity.
>> Those are the reasons.
>>
>> Linus loves systemd aswell. All the linux hire-ups are fucks these
>> days (maybe they always were). Maybe the kernel needs to be forked
>> eventually too (GRSecurity basically does this with their epic patch,
>> so it's not impossible).
>>
>> Maybe a STABLE branch of the linux kernel might then exist again!
>>
>> I think they're letting their politics drive them. RMS, Linus, etc all
>> agree with "social justice", and Lennart promotes this aswell, so it's
>> comfortable. Just look at who they married:
>>
>> Linus: Google search
>> ... That's about it, no one else married anyone...
>> But they don't strive towards pretty women, and definitly not cute
>> young girls. No, that would be "opressive" and "objectifying". So they
>> go with large karate champs (I have no idea how these two concepts
>> melded into one personification, but they did). They take their life
>> where there is the possibility of being happy and having a pretty
>> girl, and they throw that away.
>>
>>
>> On 12/3/14, Zak Fenton <zak.fenton@???> wrote:
>>> It's a really interesting idea (whether it's BSD-on-Linux or a new
>>> user-land) and I'd like to discuss it further, but I don't think here is
>>> the
>>> place.
>>>
>>> I may email you privately with some thoughts, but if you're looking for
>>> a
>>> broader perspective I'd try http://forum.osdev.org/ or a more general
>>> Linux
>>> forum or mailing list.
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: chris@???
>>>> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 09:11:31 +0000
>>>> To: dng@???
>>>> Subject: [Dng] Is forking enough?
>>>>
>>>> Policy kit is mired in systemd via pam/systemd deps and in any case I
>>>> can see policy kit / console kit being subsumed by systemd before very
>>>> long
>>>>
>>>> Then there's dbus, seems like a good idea to allow processes to send
>>>> messages to each other - except there is no security, an unprivileged
>>>> user can bring a system down or do a whole bunch of stuff...
>>>>
>>>> And this is just a few examples...
>>>>
>>>> After emailing RMS apparently he seems quite happy with systemd taking
>>>> over the Linux user land and not only that he "never really agreed with
>>>> the Unix philosophy" in any case.
>>>>
>>>> I really do wonder now if its time to throw the cuckoo out of the bath
>>>> and sit a new userland entirely on top of the Linux kernel...
>>>>
>>>> Why the Linux kernel and not just BSD ??
>>>>
>>>> well flame all you want but the Linux kernel still has way better
>>>> hardware support...
>>>>
>>>> If only there were a pure BSD userland on top of a Linux kernel
>>>> somewhere!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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