On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 01:12:51PM -0500, Ruben Safir wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 07:00:10PM +0100, Jaromil wrote:
> > On Mon, 01 Dec 2014, e1 wrote:
> >

> > >    How you can hide you personal information if you have even a
> > >    Wikipedia page about you and a dozen of books?
> > >    [3]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaromil

> >
> > and that is probably the first thing that will get vandalized in the
> > next days :^) personal attacks seem to be a constant pattern when
> > dealing with systemd, from both factions. This is very sad and I think.
>
> Oh good.
>
> Now, who is Dyne.org?
>
> How is it governed?
>
> Who are you and are you in charge of dyne.org?
>
> How are you going to account for monies collected for a fork of debian?
>
> How is Devuan going to be organization? Who is its project leader?
> What is its structure?
>
> I'm still awaiting these most basic questions, starting with who are
> YOU, and what is your relationship to Dyne who is hosting this list and
> spearheading this project and soliciting money from the public?

These are all important questions which do need addressing. I have
asked, and I hope that they will all be answered in due course. I
understand that people would be reluctant to donate their own money
to the project without some transparency and accountability here, and
I include myself in this category. However, I am not going to be
needlessly inflammatory about it.

I would also add that it takes time to set up all the infrastructure
for such a large undertaking. Debian is ~20 years old and certainly
did not start out with all this overnight; it evolved and grew over
years, and that includes organisations such as SPI. Not that I'm
downplaying the necessity, just that allowances could be made while
things are sorted out. Maybe worth mentioning that SPI manages the
legal/financial stuff for projects other than Debian, e.g. PostgreSQL;
it's not out of the question that it could also be used by Devuan,
maybe something to consider and investigate.


Regards,
Roger

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