> Am 01.12.2014 um 20:38 schrieb Ruben Safir <ruben@???>:
>
> Regardless, the first order of business needs to get the house in order
> and delegate responsibility and accountability to an independent
> organization for its stated purposes. The people serious
> about doing this should just port this off to a neutral infrastructure,
> get together and decide how you want to govern this development.
>
> Ruben

If you are among "The people serious about doing this", then please
go ahead and do it. Start by creating your own mailing list on
'neutral' infrastructure and switch to that new mailing list and
unsubscribe from this one.
That would immediately solve three things:

a) All your problems concerning dyne.org will become irrelevant
b) You can get a fork done 'just right'
c) We will have peace of mind as well.

I'll stop reading (and responding to) this thread, which will solve
all *my* problems with this thread.

Martin