> Am 01.12.2014 um 18:08 schrieb Ruben Safir <ruben@???>:
>
>
> After a little research, it apears that if a fork needs to take place,
> you need to establish indpendent infrastructure immediately. This dyne
> website and these sysadmin and annonymous and untrackable, and
> unaccountable...
>
> This project, if it is to be serious, needs to be constructed in a
> business like fashion. There is a collection taking place in the name
> of a systemd-less debian fork under dyne.org. UNACCEPTABLE.
>
> Everything needs to STOP until project leaders with real names are
> appointed and made accountable, and a new website and infrastructure is
> developed.
>
> Kumbayah and all that not withstanding, this is serious business, and
> shouldn't be run by crackmonkeys hiding their identities.

If you believe this is a con, then why waste your time writing to the
list? If you really do not trut them at all and, on the contrary,
think they are a fraud, then what could they possibly say or do that
could convince you otherwise?

"What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason
away"