On Sunday, 30 de November de 2014 14:42:43 Miles Fidelman escribió:
> Franco Lanza wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 12:54:23PM +0000, Noel Torres wrote:
> >> Do not look at me so fiercy.
> >>
> >> For me Devuan is about freedom. Specifically users' freedom. And with
> >> init freedom as a starting point.
> >
> > As already known, we are NOT against systemd. We are pro-freedom.
> > Systemd WILL BE supported in devuan. Just not in the same manner as it
> > is in debian where it eat whole system.
>
> That seems like a rather dangerous technical choice, in that systemd
> (or, more precisely, its developers) seem hell-bent on engulfing more
> and more functionality into systemd, and related code - to the extent of
> writing publicly about their goals to radically change, engulf, and
> devour Linux as we know it (that's only a mild exaggeration - I suggest
> folks actually read Lennart Poettering's blog, at
> http://0pointer.net/blog/).
>
> Between its monolithic nature, changing API's (making things like
> systemd-shim a time-sink to maintain), and radical divergence from
> traditional Unix design philosophy, supporting systemd in Devuan might
> be a very dangerous choice. You know, the whole "camel's nose under the
> tent...." thing.

Letting it engulf Devuan as it has engulfed Debian would be dangerous as you
fear. Simply providing it as an option would be not.

If we ensure all packages (excepting specific ones) are init-system agnostic
will avoid the scenario you depict.

Regards

Noel
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