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On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:58 AM, Caleb James DeLisle <cjd@???> wrote:

> Yeah and he was probably the supplier of the fucking dope :(
>
> Has everyone forgotten Dark Alliance and the contras and the plane crashes
> where the planes were loaded to the hilt with cocaine and always registered
> in the name of the CIA?
>
> The sad fucked up version of this story is that the CIA invented drugs,
> then
> used them to convert the civil rights movement into a handful of gangs
> which
> they could control by controlling the dope supply. Control of gangs gave
> them a mercenary group to get rid of anyone who got in their way because
> "gang violence" is almost never investigated.
> The problem was that social networks which sprung up, especially around
> pot which was always difficult to centralize anyway and they provided a
> troublesome social resilience. The CIA switched to using their anonymity
> network to sell direct-to-end-user, giving them higher profit margins and
> better Intel on who was actually using the drugs as well as keeping people
> from knowing their neighbors.
>
> I'm not saying that this is what happened, I can't know, but I think it's
> a bit arrogant to say "we can do drugs anonymously, yay fuck the
> government"
> when the government created both the drugs and the anonymity network which
> is
> being used to sell them.
>
>
>
> On 11/08/2014 11:23 PM, Mike Gogulski wrote:
> > Later stories said that they had an undercover among the SR 2.0 founding
> > moderators group.
> >
> > On 11/06/2014 05:58 PM, Caleb James DeLisle wrote:
> >> It wasn't a backdoor in TOR, not even once <trollface>
> >>
> >> Seriously though, the 51% attack on TOR is (AFAIK) basically just
> >> getting enough relays to be at every place in the path, you get
> >> infinite tries and you only have to get lucky once and the way the
> >> FBI has historically used small armies of infiltrators, I can't see
> >> how this kind of network should be considered safe against a
> >> determined adversary.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11/06/2014 05:51 PM, Tim Patrick wrote:
> >>> http://www.wired.com/2014/11/feds-seize-silk-road-2/
> >>>
> >>> I wonder how the FBI will explain how they were able to uncover the
> >>> identity of this guy?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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