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On 08/11/14 00:38, Matthew Holt wrote:
> If you're really serious about security though then you don't just want
> to be looking at opensource software only. Things like this open
> hardware laptop <http://www.wired.com/2014/04/novena/>, and open
> hardware chips
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open_source_hardware_projects#Computer_systems>,
> plus open hardware telephones
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open_source_hardware_projects#Telephony>.
> Is what you should really be looking at. Then any possible hardware
> backdoors can be eliminated.


Not at all. Remember who is keeping the wires from the creation of the
network of telegrams/telegraphs in 1868:

1913: http://www.jazclass.aust.com/blog/photos81/blog731c.jpg

2011: http://www.cablemap.info/

I developed with a friend some years ago a tool called: BorderCheck,
which is really interesting to knows where your data is travelling when
you are navigating (on 'real-time').

https://github.com/rscmbbng/Border-Check

We discovered a lot of nice things. First of all, how dijkstra
alghorithm is breaking neutrality, rerouting traffic to goverment
controlled proxies (money wins).

For example, to visit a site on Madrid, that has anarchist mod, being in
Madrid, how data is going outside more than 13 hops, travelling across
UK, and USA.

Also, from Madrid to Tel Aviv (Israel), only 2 hops are necesary. This
is easy to explain checking some military contracts between spain and
israel, and understading how they are deploying networks that we use to
navigate, thuinking on control them. Not in give us a nice service.

Another, how some countries, as for example Brasil, hasn't the
possibility to go out of their physical domains without passing for
datacenters of other countries (Telefonica ISP owns almost 100% of their
network), and so on...

Btw, some guys here are using gmail on mailing list and trying to give
lessons about privacy, putting in compromise to others.

I mean, they key of privacy is that is not a question for an individual.
Is a group question. So, best encrypted messaging software, first, is
not to use gmail (yahoo, etc..). Second, not use a phone. Third, not use
bank accounts, Etc..

The answer is try to have ppl similar to your paranoid level, arround of
you. Not easy to do, but possible.

> On 7 November 2014 22:59, eden <edenw@??? <mailto:edenw@gal3.com>>
> wrote:
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>     Cameron Gray wrote:
>     > Here's a great list / scorecard of a whole bunch from the EFF
>     >
>     > https://www.eff.org/secure-messaging-scorecard

>
>         That is great! Thank you.

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