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Συντάκτης: Cameron Gray
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Προς: System undo crew
Αντικείμενο: Re: [unSYSTEM] Encrypted Messaging Software
Here's a great list / scorecard of a whole bunch from the EFF

https://www.eff.org/secure-messaging-scorecard

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Matthew Holt <matthewholt3@???> wrote:

> To be honest if you're lazy and like mobile devices then check out
> Telegram <https://telegram.org/>. Just make sure you have a screen lock
> and have settings>Security>and encrypted your device. Telegram is 100%
> opensource AFAIK and they have an ongoing $100,000.00 bounty going for
> anyone who can show proof that their encryption can be broken. It works
> just like WattsApp just very secure. Although like I said make sure you
> have a screen lock and your device is encrypted. Textsecure
> <https://whispersystems.org/> looks pretty useful secure SMS app. You
> can set it to delete every or select SMS threads after N number of texts in
> the thread. It will also auto enable secure opensource SMS encryption by
> default when you SMS another of the apps users. Other than that either
> Chatsecure <https://chatsecure.org/> or Pidgin with the OTR plugin with a
> random Jabber XMPP account set up over Tor. nd only ever used over
> Tor/Orbot.
>
> Overall I'd say Telegram is the easiest to use if you're already used to
> WhatsApp.
>
> On 7 November 2014 17:06, Johnny Teatent <occupyteatent@???> wrote:
>
>> fucking GCHQ can read it all - they listen to every interesting person
>> through their mobile phone. if your a cool guy or an interesting guy they
>> send human intelligence. pretty girls. my advice is for everyone to get
>> state sponsored girlfriends and make them go native, you cant fight the
>> state they will put your door in with a big red key and plant drugs or call
>> you crazy and lock you up in the asylum. but half these guys are cool,
>> wanna help us make the transistion as bloodlessly as possible. facilitate
>> the trials and executions of the illuminati paedophiles. #dragemout
>> #tompalmernow
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 4:55 PM, epsylon <epsylon@???> wrote:
>>
>>> On 06/11/14 05:54, Tim Patrick wrote:
>>> > I heard Telegram is pretty good: https://telegram.org/. Also, they're
>>> > holding a contest with the reward of 300k if anyone can crack their
>>> > encryption. thought I'd share that.
>>>
>>> Owner of Telegram is the 'Russian Zuckerberg'. He manage a popular
>>> Facebook on the country. I don't think that is a good idea to trust that
>>> kind of commercial encryption implementations. Mainly, because they love
>>> to make business with goverments.
>>>
>>> I think, that this question of Amir is not complete. Why you need to use
>>> encryption?.
>>>
>>> You can 'spoof' yourself without use it, which is more secure. Remember
>>> that, "if you use encryption, is because you have something to hide".
>>> Nowadays is really easy using datamining to search encryption patterns.
>>> So, maybe they cannot knows what are you chatting, but they can be quiet
>>> waiting an error. Best is "not be who you are".
>>>
>>> Another solutions, depends of what do you want to do exactly. For
>>> example, for a local transmission with people arround you, you can use
>>> inaudible sounds, which is really secure against common MiTM attacks.
>>>
>>> https://github.com/Katee/quietnet
>>>
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Chris Pacia <ctpacia@???
>>> > <mailto:ctpacia@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     I've met Ladar Levison. His dark mail seems promising.
>>> >     http://darkmail.info

>>> >
>>> >     On Nov 5, 2014 11:34 PM, "Brian Hoffman" <brian@???
>>> >     <mailto:brian@openbazaar.org>> wrote:

>>> >
>>> >         I think PGP came along at a time when usability wasn't so
>>> >         important. Keep in mind it's lucky that Zimmermann wasn't put
>>> in
>>> >         jail for his work. Until the Snowden revelations I don't think
>>> >         at least Americans even worried about privacy, let alone
>>> >         usability. We are in rarified air. So much promise. Why are we
>>> >         fighting to find the perfect solution, let's work together to
>>> >         continually improve usability and security hand in hand.

>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >         > On Nov 5, 2014, at 11:21 PM, eden <edenw@???
>>> >         <mailto:edenw@gal3.com>> wrote:
>>> >         >
>>> >         > Mark Lamb wrote:
>>> >         >> Yes!! Seriously. PGP+Email is a PITA.

>>> >         >>
>>> >         >> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 12:55 AM, Amir Taaki
>>> >         <genjix@??? <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>
>>> >         >> <mailto:genjix@riseup.net <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>>>
>>> wrote:

>>> >         >>
>>> >         >>    PGP + Email sucks balls seriously.

>>> >         >>
>>> >         >>    What is the most user-friendly encrypted opensource
>>> messaging
>>> >         >>    software?

>>> >         >
>>> >         >    I don't know about those other projects ricochet, etc.
>>> But,
>>> >         i have
>>> >         > been wondering why GnuPG/PGP/etc, which are proven, have been
>>> >         around for
>>> >         > more than a decade, and nobody has made a better UI for
>>> >         it/them? It's as
>>> >         > if somebody wants it to be difficult to work with?

>>> >         >
>>> >         >    If anybody knows of any projects working on making them be
>>> >         less of a
>>> >         > pain, then please let us know.

>>> >         >
>>> >         > --
>>> >         > eden
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