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Συντάκτης: Johnny Teatent
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Προς: System undo crew
Αντικείμενο: Re: [unSYSTEM] Encrypted Messaging Software
fucking GCHQ can read it all - they listen to every interesting person
through their mobile phone. if your a cool guy or an interesting guy they
send human intelligence. pretty girls. my advice is for everyone to get
state sponsored girlfriends and make them go native, you cant fight the
state they will put your door in with a big red key and plant drugs or call
you crazy and lock you up in the asylum. but half these guys are cool,
wanna help us make the transistion as bloodlessly as possible. facilitate
the trials and executions of the illuminati paedophiles. #dragemout
#tompalmernow

On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 4:55 PM, epsylon <epsylon@???> wrote:

> On 06/11/14 05:54, Tim Patrick wrote:
> > I heard Telegram is pretty good: https://telegram.org/. Also, they're
> > holding a contest with the reward of 300k if anyone can crack their
> > encryption. thought I'd share that.
>
> Owner of Telegram is the 'Russian Zuckerberg'. He manage a popular
> Facebook on the country. I don't think that is a good idea to trust that
> kind of commercial encryption implementations. Mainly, because they love
> to make business with goverments.
>
> I think, that this question of Amir is not complete. Why you need to use
> encryption?.
>
> You can 'spoof' yourself without use it, which is more secure. Remember
> that, "if you use encryption, is because you have something to hide".
> Nowadays is really easy using datamining to search encryption patterns.
> So, maybe they cannot knows what are you chatting, but they can be quiet
> waiting an error. Best is "not be who you are".
>
> Another solutions, depends of what do you want to do exactly. For
> example, for a local transmission with people arround you, you can use
> inaudible sounds, which is really secure against common MiTM attacks.
>
> https://github.com/Katee/quietnet
>
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Chris Pacia <ctpacia@???
> > <mailto:ctpacia@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     I've met Ladar Levison. His dark mail seems promising.
> >     http://darkmail.info

> >
> >     On Nov 5, 2014 11:34 PM, "Brian Hoffman" <brian@???
> >     <mailto:brian@openbazaar.org>> wrote:

> >
> >         I think PGP came along at a time when usability wasn't so
> >         important. Keep in mind it's lucky that Zimmermann wasn't put in
> >         jail for his work. Until the Snowden revelations I don't think
> >         at least Americans even worried about privacy, let alone
> >         usability. We are in rarified air. So much promise. Why are we
> >         fighting to find the perfect solution, let's work together to
> >         continually improve usability and security hand in hand.

> >
> >
> >
> >         > On Nov 5, 2014, at 11:21 PM, eden <edenw@???
> >         <mailto:edenw@gal3.com>> wrote:
> >         >
> >         > Mark Lamb wrote:
> >         >> Yes!! Seriously. PGP+Email is a PITA.

> >         >>
> >         >> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 12:55 AM, Amir Taaki
> >         <genjix@??? <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>
> >         >> <mailto:genjix@riseup.net <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>>> wrote:

> >         >>
> >         >>    PGP + Email sucks balls seriously.

> >         >>
> >         >>    What is the most user-friendly encrypted opensource
> messaging
> >         >>    software?

> >         >
> >         >    I don't know about those other projects ricochet, etc. But,
> >         i have
> >         > been wondering why GnuPG/PGP/etc, which are proven, have been
> >         around for
> >         > more than a decade, and nobody has made a better UI for
> >         it/them? It's as
> >         > if somebody wants it to be difficult to work with?

> >         >
> >         >    If anybody knows of any projects working on making them be
> >         less of a
> >         > pain, then please let us know.

> >         >
> >         > --
> >         > eden
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