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A: judoman589
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On 06/11/14 05:54, Tim Patrick wrote:
> I heard Telegram is pretty good: https://telegram.org/. Also, they're
> holding a contest with the reward of 300k if anyone can crack their
> encryption. thought I'd share that.


Owner of Telegram is the 'Russian Zuckerberg'. He manage a popular
Facebook on the country. I don't think that is a good idea to trust that
kind of commercial encryption implementations. Mainly, because they love
to make business with goverments.

I think, that this question of Amir is not complete. Why you need to use
encryption?.

You can 'spoof' yourself without use it, which is more secure. Remember
that, "if you use encryption, is because you have something to hide".
Nowadays is really easy using datamining to search encryption patterns.
So, maybe they cannot knows what are you chatting, but they can be quiet
waiting an error. Best is "not be who you are".

Another solutions, depends of what do you want to do exactly. For
example, for a local transmission with people arround you, you can use
inaudible sounds, which is really secure against common MiTM attacks.

https://github.com/Katee/quietnet

>
> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Chris Pacia <ctpacia@???
> <mailto:ctpacia@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I've met Ladar Levison. His dark mail seems promising.
>     http://darkmail.info

>
>     On Nov 5, 2014 11:34 PM, "Brian Hoffman" <brian@???
>     <mailto:brian@openbazaar.org>> wrote:

>
>         I think PGP came along at a time when usability wasn't so
>         important. Keep in mind it's lucky that Zimmermann wasn't put in
>         jail for his work. Until the Snowden revelations I don't think
>         at least Americans even worried about privacy, let alone
>         usability. We are in rarified air. So much promise. Why are we
>         fighting to find the perfect solution, let's work together to
>         continually improve usability and security hand in hand.

>
>
>
>         > On Nov 5, 2014, at 11:21 PM, eden <edenw@???
>         <mailto:edenw@gal3.com>> wrote:
>         >
>         > Mark Lamb wrote:
>         >> Yes!! Seriously. PGP+Email is a PITA.

>         >>
>         >> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 12:55 AM, Amir Taaki
>         <genjix@??? <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>
>         >> <mailto:genjix@riseup.net <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>>> wrote:

>         >>
>         >>    PGP + Email sucks balls seriously.

>         >>
>         >>    What is the most user-friendly encrypted opensource messaging
>         >>    software?

>         >
>         >    I don't know about those other projects ricochet, etc. But,
>         i have
>         > been wondering why GnuPG/PGP/etc, which are proven, have been
>         around for
>         > more than a decade, and nobody has made a better UI for
>         it/them? It's as
>         > if somebody wants it to be difficult to work with?

>         >
>         >    If anybody knows of any projects working on making them be
>         less of a
>         > pain, then please let us know.

>         >
>         > --
>         > eden
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