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Autor: Johnny Teatent
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Para: System undo crew
Assunto: Re: [unSYSTEM] David Graeber article about Kurdish anarchists in Kobani fighting ISIS
david graeber is far too close to the occupy london mi5 crew

On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 11:55 AM, odinn <odinn.cyberguerrilla@???>
wrote:

>
> Hey Amir,
>
> Thanks for the articles ~ I read them with interest.
>
> I have mixed views about Graeber's statements in the Guardian article,
> for example. It's good he's calling attention to the issues, but it
> seems as though there's kind of this warmongering aspect to his
> statements, and a sort of implicit celebration of statism as he calls
> upon historical memory of the Spanish Civil War. I am very skeptical
> of war (having seen more than enough of it in my travels) though it's
> obvious that people need to make decisions about what to do seriously
> when it is coming to their doorstep and make adequate preparations to
> fight back fascism, oppression, and directly resist genocidal actors.
>
> (Reflection: If cryptoanarchy could be made easier, then maybe there
> would be less funding for large-scale genocidal actors to begin with,
> so.. DW, Zerocash... part of a larger solution, IMHO.)
>
> Curiously, a MSM article I came across seems to step back a bit from
> the warmongering postures and actually seemed to advocate avoidance of
> massively organized violence as a solution (which I found encouraging
> to read). relevant quote follows:
>
> "this is not primarily a war between the United States and radical
> Islam. It is a war within Islam itself for the soul of the faith(...)
> This is not an American government battle."
> "Thirteen years after 9/11, it's time America wakes up. This is not
> our war. Let's stop fighting it. Ahmad al-Shayea tells us no less."
>
> (( quoted from:
>
> http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/08/opinion/ballen-better-way-to-fight-isis/index.html
> ))
>
> (The author of that CNN article is a founder of
> 'Terror-free-tomorrow,' and he wrote a book called 'Terrorists in Love.'
> http://terroristsinlove.com/author.html
>
> :-)
>
> Respect,
>
> Odinn
>
>
>
> Amir Taaki wrote:
> > there are 2 kurdish forces in north iraq- one which wants to setup
> > a classic centralised state and the other affiliated with the
> > syrians.
> >
> >
> http://new-middle-east.blogspot.co.nz/2014/08/ypg-and-pkk-forcesthe-unsung-heroes-of.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 11/01/2014 04:50 AM, Amir Taaki wrote:
> >>
> http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/08/why-world-ignoring-revolutionary-kurds-syria-isis
> >>
> >>
> >>
> and interview with american fighting there:
> >>
> >> http://www.dengeamerika.com/media/video/2496770.html
> >>
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