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Autor: Josh Walker
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Para: System undo crew
Assunto: Re: [unSYSTEM] Geolibertarians and Land Value Tax to replace all other forms of unjust taxation
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> ​
> Not sure how I feel about land tax, except that it seems eminently


more logical than the other forms of tax.
>


​In my conversations with our like-minded brethren, I've found it's best
understood when described as this:


- ​It's not really a tax, because it's entirely optional -- else it
would violate the NAP.
- ​
You
​are actually trading
for community consensus that the property is *yours and yours alone. *
*​*Therefore, you might say this is the cost of that service.
- The cost is the equilibrium point
​at which
you
​r desire to
​keep the property exceeds what
someone
​someone else would offer.


​If you're actively listening, you might notice price discovery is the only
tricky part here. This also isn't to replace the cost of selling developed
property; this is just the cost of retaining consensus ownership of the
underlying land.

If you are actively contributing the cost of consensus to the community in
an acceptable form (I see no reason a community would always demand *only *raw
currency, necessarily), the following happens.

- Someone disregarding the community consensus would face censure in all
local markets. In almost all cases, knowledge of this alone is expected to
keep folks in like.
- If a squatter arrives and refuses to leave, and is not dissuaded by
being unable to interact, buy, or sell with the community, you may remove
the squatter. With the minimum force required, of course. This means,
for example, you could physically push the squatter off the land, as gently
as possible, and if the squatter escalated the altercation, the community
would not view the squatter's escalation as an act of self-defense (unless
you began with excessive force).

If you aren't contributing, it still isn't permissible for folks to come
and steal or break things, but don't expect the community to object to a
camper on your lawn using your well or something. (Local community
standards will vary, I'm sure.) And as above, I'd definitely expect you to
struggle to interact, buy, or sell with the local market.

The key being it's all voluntary and the only weapon is the *removal of
consent to associate.* Also notable is, there's clearly room for compassion
and exceptions, or for communities to accept payment in the way of labor,
etc.

-J

On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Adam Gibson <ekaggata@???> wrote:

>
> It's not quite the same. The blockchain is literally created by the
> miners (the part that actually is useful, the new blocks). The land
> was always there.
>
> Not sure how I feel about land tax, except that it seems eminently
> more logical than the other forms of tax.
>
> On 10/07/2014 07:19 PM, Thomas Hartman wrote:
> > In some sense, couldn't the same argument be made for owning
> > chunks of a blockchain, if bitcoin or something like it becomes a
> > natural monopoly on transactional economic activity?
> >
> > Force address registration on as many people as you can, and then
> > tax. Sometimes simple obvious plans work best.
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???>
> > wrote:
> >> Geolibertarians hold that all natural resources – most
> >> importantly land – are common assets to which all individuals
> >> have an equal right to access; therefore, individuals must pay
> >> rent to the community if they claim land as their private
> >> property. Rent need not be paid for the mere use of land, but
> >> only for the right to exclude others from that land, and for the
> >> protection of one's title by government.
> >>
> >> Geolibertarians view the Land Value Tax as a single tax to
> >> replace all other methods of taxation, which are deemed unjust
> >> violations of the non-aggression principle.
> >>
> >> A land value tax (or site valuation tax) is a levy on the
> >> unimproved value of land only. A land value tax (LVT) is
> >> different from other property taxes, which are taxes on the
> >> whole value of real estate: the combination of land, buildings,
> >> and improvements to the site.
> >>
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geolibertarianism
> >>
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_value_tax
> >>
> >>
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