I watch them closely, zero in particular -- ring sigs are understood but
ehhh -- but there is something to be said about a pseudonymous system. It
would be preferable if it were more anonymous by default, and
de-anonymizing to prove something be what takes a little effort, vs.
Bitcoin where it takes considerable effort to remain anonymous.

With zero-knowledge proofs, I think we can push as anonymous as we like,
though -- unless a cryptosystem is used such that even a ZKP cannot be
performed, which I'm not sure is possible, but who knows. (And if it
exists, I hope it will be called SchrödingerCoin, rimshot, lol.)

On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Matthew Holt <matthewholt3@???> wrote:

> *Typo=Also BTW I've donated to Darkcoin and helped raise funds also.=Also
> BTW I've donated to DarkWALLET and helped raise funds also.
>
> On 6 October 2014 02:38, Matthew Holt <matthewholt3@???> wrote:
>
>> Unless you're deeply invested in bitcoin then new anonymous deep web
>> cryptocurrencies offer something a lot better to users demanding privacy
>> and freedom from the legacy systems. There's already a new type of
>> exchange that requires no registration to trade alts for BTC and
>> vice-versa. So there's a quick easy route to fiat cash and also into the
>> networks. While look at FairCoop <https://fair.coop/> on their plan to
>> only trade with Faircoin <http://fair-coin.org/>. I've been involved
>> with Bitcoin since the early Britcoin days of 2011 but I don't have large
>> masses of bitcoin stashed nor do I feel like I owe it anything. If
>> anything Bitcoin with its public blockchain make it ideal for the
>> pro-regulation camps. And TBH the bitcoin price could really take off once
>> the coin is fully regulated, but the cat is out of the bag now. And
>> anonymous plus deep-web cryptocurrencies like Anoncoin and Monero are here
>> now. That's where system-D monies will eventually start to head. Not to a
>> permanently public bitcoin blockchain. Also I don't feel that anything
>> built off or around the CoinJoin protocol could ever really offer real life
>> or death anonymity, but it may make users feel better. So could help
>> further the cryptocoin cause. Like Darkcoin once it's used enough it's
>> going to be be playing whack-a-mole with privacy exploits for ever and a
>> day IMHO. While yes these are just my opinions for whatever worth they may
>> add to these discussions. Also BTW I've donated to Darkcoin and helped
>> raise funds also.
>>
>> On 6 October 2014 01:35, Washington Sanchez <washington.sanchez@???
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> "Whatever dude, that's just like your opinion..."
>>> On 06/10/2014 7:34 AM, "Julia Tourianski" <juliatourianski@???>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> First I was censored
>>>> Then it got too awkward for him, so he let me speak. This is the worst
>>>> type of thinking we can encounter.
>>>>
>>>> "We live in the real world, you can't change reality"
>>>>
>>>> "When I was 20 sure I thought I could fight the government, but you
>>>> have to be pragmatic"
>>>>
>>>> "I'm gonna quote Shakespeare, you can smile and smile but be a villain,
>>>> well you can whine and whine but the reality is there needs to be
>>>> regulation"
>>>>
>>>> "Regulation is inevitable, it had value, it's there for a reason.
>>>> Everything is regulated, it's valid"
>>>>
>>>> "Compliance is a necessary evil"
>>>>
>>>> - Juan Llanos
>>>>
>>>> Me response
>>>>
>>>> https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=785756038149327
>>>>
>>>> - Julia Tourianski
>>>>
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