>
> Go fricking schedule a damned meeting with the lady
*You* go schedule it. There are no bosses here, just leaders.
And don't ever call a woman a bitch if you want me to take you
> seriously.
Only men, then? Stop being a whiny bitch.
Yes, you've irritated me, quite a bit.
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Josh Walker <josh@???> wrote:
> What is the mission that unSys has crept away from, exactly? This is
> little more than 4chan's old /raid/ board but in mailing list form,
> tailored to the demographic of cryptoanarchists. Not your personal army.
>
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Troy Benjegerdes <hozer@???> wrote:
>
>> I don't mean to be too dramatic or anything, but the unsystem may
>> be entirely unable to perform it's stated mission if the members
>> do not un-do some bullshit arrogance and mission creep.
>>
>> You'll wake up to find the feminine has killed the black dog of
>> cyberwhatever while you were thumping your chests and dancing
>> around about how you won the latest battle with the terrible and
>> evil state.
>>
>> see
>> http://books.google.com/books?id=Gmn8AgAAQBAJ&pg=PT129&lpg=PT129&dq=changing+planes+the+black+dog&source=bl&ots=xNCjfZocad&sig=DiJInPeUhnZgYpZVbjkpYO_od3Q&hl=en&sa=X&ei=n2UsVPreJ42XyAT1poCYCQ&ved=0CCcQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=changing%20planes%20the%20black%20dog&f=false
>>
>>
>> Go fricking schedule a damned meeting with the lady and explain
>> how high-frequency trading is funding ISIS, and the unsystem would
>> like to offer it's collective knowledge, experience, and energy to
>> track down who's making anonymous trades on the commodities and
>> stock exchanges, and buying military weapons with it.
>>
>> Is this not a shared goal of both the unsystem and FINCEN?
>>
>> And don't ever call a woman a bitch if you want me to take you
>> seriously.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 09:04:53PM -0700, Odinn Cyberguerrilla wrote:
>> > Folks, I don't mean to be too dramatic or anything, but it's
>> > entirely possible that before the end of 2015, FinCen (though it
>> > will not cease to exist) will be unable to perform its own stated
>> > mission. Sure it's a part of the US Treasury and all that, but look
>> > at it's long-term IT modernization efforts...
>> > http://www.fincen.gov/about_fincen/wwd/ITModernizationEffortsFAQ.html
>> > (It's a .gov but I'll summarize it here)
>> > Basically they are still working out the details of e-filing for the
>> > Bank Secrecy Act and supposedly attempting to "re-engineer the BSA
>> > data architecture, update antiquated infrastructure required to
>> > support data capture and dissemination, implement innovative Web
>> > services and enhanced electronic filing, and provide enhanced
>> > analytical tools."
>> >
>> > If FinCen was really modernizing, they wouldn't be just studying
>> > ring signature or "looking into it" as the coindesk article seemed
>> > to imply. FinCen would be USING it. Or bitcoin. Or both!
>> >
>> > By the time they figure out how to fix their own shit, the rest of
>> > the world will be light years ahead of them.
>> >
>> > I remember clearly (and even have a little blog and printout) of
>> > (FinCen Director) Jen Shasky-Calvery's testimony from Nov. 18, 2013
>> > on the US Senate Hearings on Decentralized virtual currency. She
>> > said the same thing on Nov. 19, too, basically just repeating word
>> > for word today what she said back then....
>> > ""We work to achieve (our) mission by implementing the Bank Secrecy
>> > Act... Illicit actors might decide to use virtual currency... (it's)
>> > relatively anonymous.... does not typically have transaction
>> > limits.... may have been created to facilitate money laundering..."
>> > "(This) is not nearly theoretical..." (References Liberty Reserve,
>> > Silk Road)
>> > "It is also important to put virtual currency in perspective...
>> > Approximately 8 billion dollars in transactions (in virtual
>> > currency) over the past year."
>> > "It is in the best interest of virtual currency users to comply with
>> > (our) regulations..."
>> > (From her statements which she repeated on Nov. 18 and 19, 2013
>> > before the Senate. Same parrot-talk)
>> >
>> > It's our responsibility to reach a helping hand out to those who are
>> > trying to figure out how to live without things like FinCen invading
>> > every square inch of their lives. Getting back to that now...
>> >
>> > Just as an aside though, were it not for that zombie-like image of
>> > the FinCen Director with The Flag(!!) behind it, one could almost
>> > see her squatting somewhere with a bunch of hungry DW developers,
>> > lounging over a screen...
>> > pipe dream o possible future reality? <le sigh>
>> > Anyway...
>> >
>> > End the state. Autonomy is here. It's not here in the form of some
>> > future far-off perfect software. It's right here, now, in the form
>> > of decisions we make.
>> >
>> > DW, Forward!
>> >
>> > On 2014-09-30 20:33, Amir Taaki wrote:
>> > >http://www.coindesk.com/fincen-director-villainize-bitcoin/
>> > >
>> > >"Of particular concern, Calvery said, are informal bitcoin dealers who
>> > >may think they can operate outside of the agency’s oversight.
>> > >
>> > >“I hear reports that there are folks who say that they’ll wait and see
>> > >if there’s any enforcement behind our requirements before they take it
>> > >too seriously, so that’s unfortunate. I have to hear that folks want to
>> > >see folks do wrong, and take action before they’re willing to comply,
>> > >but we’re willing to do that if we need to,” she said."
>> > >
>> > >so you will need ID to trade bitcoins for fiat basically.
>> > >
>> > >pin minded careerist trying to one up lawsky.
>> > >
>> > >“We don’t start at a product and villainize a product, we
>> > >villainize the
>> > >bad actors and find out what they’re doing with their money.”
>> > >
>> > >"We ask that you think about it from an anti-money laundering (AML)
>> > >perspective, what could you build in [to the technology]?"
>> > >
>> > >"Rather, Calvery said that bitcoin’s status as a newcomer to the
>> > >financial ecosystem has made it the target of bad actors."
>> > >
>> > >"“When I looked through it [BitLicense], I saw a lot of concepts that I
>> > >was already familiar with from New York and other places,” Calvery
>> > >said."
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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>>
>> Never pick a fight with someone who buys ink by the barrel,
>> nor try buy a hacker who makes money by the megahash
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