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Autor: Bezdomny
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Para: System undo crew
Assunto: Re: [unSYSTEM] Government documents from anonymous source about Bitcoin in Europe
You're departing from the assumption that using drugs is a crime. I don't
believe drug consumption should be considered an illegal activity. I fail
to understand why anyone who uses drugs should be persecuted like a
criminal. In Portugal they stopped treating PROBLEMATIC DRUG USERS (we
don't use the word "addict") as criminals and treated it as a medical
issue. Drug (ab)use has gone down dramatically.
This idea of persecuting one another and treating each other as criminals
is not the way to change society. As for illegal weapons, well if the US,
France, Russia, UK and other weapons producers stop making the weapons
then there'd be nothing to sell because people who make their own guns
aren't criminals;they're gunsmiths, craftspeople. Why would someone want
to use a gun against another person? That's a mental issue. Most likely is
out of desperation for money, so the crime here is poverty. In the odd
case the person is a psychopath, which is extremely rare, but those people
are so smart that they could probably get a policeman to lend them a gun to
commit a crime
On Sep 30, 2014 6:35 AM, "Troy Benjegerdes" <hozer@???> wrote:

> You should be encouraging this.
>
> Once there's a clear legal precedent to chase illegal operations on
> transparent public blockchains the regulators will finally be able to
> either outlaw or prosecute illegal operations hidden by high-frequency
> trading and the other 'deep finance' tricks that get played by banksters
> and political cronies.
>
> It's the epic battle of the millenium: bureaucracy vs capital
>
> While the titans grind each other down, we have a chance to build some
> awareness and un-systems that are un-possible to un-done.
>
> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 11:31:57PM +0200, Jaromil wrote:
> >
> > I for one do know that in NL there are among the first cops to be well
> > active chasing Bitcoin based businesses opening on the deep web. they
> > did plenty of experiments already and they often start by ordering stuff
> > to see if its really drugs and weapons to be delivered.
> >
> > But I'm not sure this is really new.
> >
> > these kinds of gray or black economies have always been chased on all
> > mediums. what I find interesting is the EU current debate is that stats
> > are now considering criminal economies as part of the GDP of nations,
> > which is a pretty realistic take on what really fuels the necrotization
> > of capitalism.
> >
> > I'm also pretty much intrigued by the negative interest introduced by
> > the ECB. Any item saying that cops are chasing drug dealers is somehow
> > old news to me, blame the age.
> >
> > ciao
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 29 Sep 2014, Thomas Hartman wrote:
> >
> > > Scary. Sounds plausible.
> > >
> > > Sounds like registration of public keys, coinvalidation style, is in
> > > the works in europe in the next five years.
> > >
> > > The squeeze is on.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???>
> wrote:
> > > >
> http://www.coinssource.com/europes-secret-plan-take-down-the-deep-web-targets-bitcoin/
> > > >
> > > > I have reason to believe this is actually true.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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