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Autor: Pablo Arriazu
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Betreff: Re: [unSYSTEM] Anarchists joining Kurds against ISIS
Thanks for the links! Ocalan is a quite interesting person. In this
article there is a more exensive explanation about "democratic
confederalism":

http://new-compass.net/articles/bookchin-%C3%B6calan-and-dialectics-democracy

I also read recently a very interesting piece of text he wrote when he
discovered Benedict Anderson theories about nationalism and communities:


    My realization that I was a positivist dogmatic was certainly
connected to my isolation. In isolation I grasped the alternative
modernity concept, that national structures can have many different
models, that generally social structures are fictional ones created by
human hands, and that nature is malleable. In particular, overcoming
the model of the nation-state was very important for me. For a long
time this concept was a Marxist-Leninist-Stalinist principle for me.
It essentially had the quality of an unchanging dogma. Because real
socialism hadn’t overcome the nation state model and saw it as a basic
necessity for modernity, we weren’t able to think of another form of
nationalism, for example democratic nationalism. When you said nation
there absolutely had to be a state! If Kurds were a nation they
certainly needed a state! However as social conditions intensified, as
I understood that nations themselves were the most meaningless
reality, shaped under the influence of capitalism, and as I understood
that the nation-state model was an iron cage for societies, I realized
that freedom and community were more important concepts. Realizing
that to fight for nation states was to fight for capitalism, a big
transformation in my political philosophy took place. I realized I had
been a victim of capitalist modernity.


http://www.dissentmagazine.org/blog/an-imprisoned-nationalist-reads-benedict-anderson



El 29/09/14 a las #4, Chris escribió:
> I watched this a while back as well and found it quite good, a
> documentary called "Guerrilla Girls of the PKK" from Journeyman
> Pictures: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRsw5s28jxY
>
> Worth looking into for anyone interested in learning more about the
> PKK.
>
> On 29.09.14 18:50, Amir Taaki wrote:
>> Good links. The main Kurdish fighting force in Iran:
>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJAK
>
>> "According to the Washington Times, half the members of PJAK are
>> women, many of them still in their teens. The group actively
>> recruits female guerrillas and states that its "cruelest and
>> fiercest fighters" are women drawn to the movement's "radical
>> feminism"."
>
>> On 09/29/2014 05:46 PM, Chris wrote:
>>> My first thought when I read this the other day was "Time to
>>> get the International together again?"
>>>
>>>
>>> Here is a good article on the PKK and their movement:
>>> http://roarmag.org/2014/08/pkk-kurdish-struggle-autonomy/
>>>
>>> This is the "manifesto" from the PKK leader Abdullah Ocelan:
>>> http://www.freedom-for-ocalan.com/english/download/Ocalan-Democratic-Confederalism.pdf
>>>
>>>
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>>>

On 29.09.14 18:42, Amir Taaki wrote:
>>>> http://325.nostate.net/?p=12251
>>>> https://twitter.com/eatps_/status/515476073992433664
>>>
>>>> which is interesting because:
>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pkk (2nd paragraph)
>>>
>>>> and relevant to the discussion about ISIS being an
>>>> ideological movement:
>>>
>>>> http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/24/isis-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-jason-burke
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>

very exciting and interesting times.
>>>
>>>> also there's an occupy ongoing in hong kong.
>>>
>>>
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