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Autore: Robert Jakob
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To: System undo crew
Oggetto: Re: [unSYSTEM] Reappropriating our stigmatizing Dark labels
OpenWallet probably sends the wrong message. How about Louis Vuitton?

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Odinn Cyberguerrilla <
odinn.cyberguerrilla@???> wrote:

> On 2014-09-25 11:54, Damian wrote:
>
>> PatriotWallet is a geniusss idea...I might have to dig into that.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Washington Sanchez <
>> washington.sanchez@???> wrote:
>>
>> April Fools suggestion: come out with a version of DarkWallet called
>>> 'PatriotWallet' with all the associated Americana, Eagles, Flags and
>>> McDonalds.
>>>
>>> CoinJoin your bitcoin so ISIS can't track your payments. Encrypt your
>>> messages to avoid ISIS dragnet data collection and interception program.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Brian Hoffman <brian@???>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think the point is there's a mysticism that goes with the word dark.
>>>> It's way more punk than opaque. What the fuck is that? This is the same
>>>> crap we get about the OpenBazaar name. First off it's just a name and
>>>> second off you read too much into it. DarkWallet is a dark themed wallet
>>>> app and there are so many themes for other software called dark and no
>>>> one
>>>> assumes it evil. I think it's an unfair assessment first of all.
>>>>
>>>> > On Sep 24, 2014, at 8:52 PM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Opaque is horrible. We are not opaque people. We try to be true to
>>>> > ourselves.
>>>> >
>>>> >> On 09/25/2014 01:47 AM, Nicolas Mendoza wrote:
>>>> >> Probably the use of the "Dark" label is beyond the point of no return
>>>> >> already, but my concern is that the word is rather innacurate. Please
>>>> >> illuminate me if I am wrong, but my understanding is that these are
>>>> >> privacy tools first and foremost. In that sense, probably a better
>>>> label
>>>> >> than 'dark' would have been 'opaque', with the added benefit that it
>>>> >> does not carry the connotations of 'evil' that 'dark' undeniably has.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 6:20 AM, Brian Hoffman <brian@???
>>>> >> <mailto:brian@openbazaar.org>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>    Like it or not people want to be happy not the truth. The truth
>>>> >>    isn't always comfortable. It's much easier to ignore the
>>>> >>    inconvenience of truth and fake happiness in our local McDonald's
>>>> >>    and Starbucks handing over our plastic cards representing our
>>>> mental
>>>> >>    prisons to buy Shit we don't need.

>>>> >>
>>>> >>    On Sep 24, 2014, at 7:14 PM, Washington Sanchez
>>>> >>    <washington.sanchez@??? <mailto:washington.sanchez@
>>>> gmail.com

>>>> >>
>>>> >>    wrote:

>>>> >>
>>>> >>>    (55 upvotes for viking frat boys)/2... twins Basil!

>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>    On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Julia Tourianski
>>>> >>>    <juliatourianski@??? <mailto:juliatourianski@gmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:

>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>        55 upvotes for viking frat boys

>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>        -1 for terrorist looking squatter

>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>        reddit = the success of democracy

>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>        For the secrets and lies, my PGP key:
>>>> >>>        https://libbitcoin.dyne.org/julia_tourianski.pgp.asc

>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>        On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:00 PM, Amir Taaki <
>>>> genjix@???
>>>> >>>        <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>> wrote:

>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2hc34r/winklevoss_bitcoin_
>>>> presentation_at_value/ckrlzci?context=3
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>            I'm only talking about technology. Consensus is not
>>>> truth.

>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>            On 09/24/2014 11:58 PM, Washington Sanchez wrote:
>>>> >>>> "We legitimise tools of power over us when we display cowardice."

>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Tres awesome.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 3:21 AM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???
>>>> <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>
>>>> >>>> <mailto:genjix@riseup.net <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>    Whenever someone asks, just post this link:

>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reappropriation

>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>    It's the nature of this type of activism that it is provocative.
>>>> >>>>    We legitimise tools of power over us when we display cowardice.
>>>> >>>>    The struggle is for more than just the technology.
>>>> >>>>    Bold moves shape the narrative.

>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
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>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> --
>>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>> >>>> *Dr Washington Y. Sanchez*
>>>> >>>> Post-doctoral research officer
>>>> >>>> Therapeutics Research Centre
>>>> >>>> University of Queensland
>>>> >>>> Princess Alexandra Hospital
>>>> >>>> Woollongabba, 4102
>>>> >>>> Queensland, Australia
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
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>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>    --
>>>> >>>    -------------------------------------------
>>>> >>>    *Dr Washington Y. Sanchez*
>>>> >>>    Post-doctoral research officer
>>>> >>>    Therapeutics Research Centre
>>>> >>>    University of Queensland
>>>> >>>    Princess Alexandra Hospital
>>>> >>>    Woollongabba, 4102
>>>> >>>    Queensland, Australia
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>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Nicolas Mendoza
>>>> >>
>>>> >> PhD Researcher
>>>> >> School of Creative Media
>>>> >> City University of Hong Kong
>>>> >> China PDR - HKSAR
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
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>>> Simple.
>
> 1) Make it 1000 times more expensive than it would ever need to be
> (actually if the price of it is zero, then just give it a price, like 0.01
> BTC, then multiply that times ten, then translate it to whatever it is in
> US dollars on the day, then multiply THAT times ten then make it the US
> dollar price, then make THAT the PAYPAL price, then watch LEGIONS of people
> come to buy it like CRAZY
>
> 2) Give it any name. Doesn't matter what the name. Just make sure and
> put Patriot or Zombie in front of it. If it is PatriotWallet it has to
> look Flaggy, you know, red white and blue with stars all shooting out of
> its ASS. If it is ZombieWallet it has to be green with a darkgreen
> radiation symbol on the wallet so it looks really cool like everything else
> that is marketed to kill zombies or indicate that there is a green
> radiation level situation that is causing people to stay indoors and the
> poor outdoor ones to get turned into zombie people (not like they weren't
> already but whatever).
> EXAMPLE of hypothetical PatriotWallet color scheme, using Power4Patriots
> as baseline: http://power4patriots.com/ (NOTE: I am NOT affiliated in
> ANY way with Power4Patriots Solar stuff.)
> EXAMPLE of hypothetical ZombieWallet color scheme, using a typical 'green
> radiation' sign:
> http://wallpaperscraft.com/download/radiation_sign_
> symbol_background_86966/2560x1024
>
> 3) Sell Sell Sell
>
>
> Have fun. NOTE: This e-mail contains toxic objects which by their very
> nature are NOT FOSS
>
>
>
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> -------------------------------------------
>>> *Dr Washington Y. Sanchez*
>>> Post-doctoral research officer
>>> Therapeutics Research Centre
>>> University of Queensland
>>> Princess Alexandra Hospital
>>> Woollongabba, 4102
>>> Queensland, Australia
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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