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Autor: Nicolás Mendoza
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A: System undo crew
Assumpte: Re: [unSYSTEM] Ecuador Digital Currency
We don't need to speculate on Correa's motives. This video speaks for
itself, in case you missed it at the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiF53cxQQMQ

I am not saying that Correa is flawless. It's more about not going over the
board into demonizing him, because he's walked the talk, at least when it
comes to Assange (of epic importance). That alone already earns him the
benefit of my doubt. Enjoy the vid ;)


On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 10:11 AM, n <nt0n0m@???> wrote:

> It's this specific part of this article that has me not sleeping so well
> for the first time in 5 years...
>
> "The blatant targeting of Utne is highly suspect and appears politically
> motivated – an attempt to intimidate and send a message to foreigners who
> reside in Ecuador."
> - http://amazonwatch.org/news/2014/0729-expelled-from-ecuador
>
> Everything I have in the world is here. My land, my house, my family. If I
> were sent back to Toronto because I speak out against evil (I believe
> centralized systems are evil.) I would be sleeping on a park bench.
> They can't do that...
> Can they ?
> ...Gulp...
>
> Time for me & my wife to have a child in Ecuador, which would make us the
> legal guardians of an Ecuadorian child....
>
> Also I never imagined so many people from Ecuador were on this list...
> I'm assuming Ecuador has a secret service by now.
> Did I say filthy pig ? I think I meant to say he's not all that bad.
> Or could be worse...
> I like him actually, I might campaign for him next election. maybe.
>
> :)
>
>
> On dom, ago 31, 2014 at 10:01 PM, Diego Saa <cuco.saa@???> wrote:
>
> Sorry if I came through as having a fighting attitude... English is not my
> native language, so my choice of words might not be the most appropriate
> sometimes.
>
> However, I still hold that goading people to fight each other is just
> wrong. It is a concept used by many citizens of imperialist countries to,
> in their minds, morally justify their government's disregard of foreign
> national sovereignty.
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Josh Walker <josh@???> wrote:
>
>> Jesus Christ, man, it's a thought experiment and as such simplified
>> problem with constraints that don't apply to the real world. Why couldn't I
>> leave the room? Etc. It is a bloody thought experiment.
>>
>> Ironic that you seem ready to fight over whose a greater pacifist. Your
>> attitude on this disgusts me. This is the last I'll reply to you on this
>> subject.
>>
>> Please consider whether your use of declaratives is logical, as well as
>> the unconditionals. I hope you will have done so, next time we speak. Which
>> could be soon; I don't hold grudges or remember names often.
>>
>> Peace.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, August 31, 2014, Diego Saa <cuco.saa@???> wrote:
>>
>>> An even more preferable use of resources would be helping make peace.
>>> Goading others into fighting each other is fucked up, and will blow on your
>>> own face when those people realize what you are doing.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Josh Walker <josh@???>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Naturally.
>>>>
>>>> Let's say there are two fighters in a room, plus me. They refuse to
>>>> just crack a beer and relax, but rather insist on fighting.
>>>>
>>>> Although I would be justified to defend myself if pressed, it is a
>>>> preferable use of resources (time and energy) to goad them into
>>>> fighting each other.
>>>>
>>>> That's all I mean.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, August 31, 2014, Diego Saa <cuco.saa@???> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure that any kind of fighting is a good thing for freedom. To
>>>>> a certain extent, all governments fight other governments and also fight
>>>>> any dissenters amongst their own population. You are right in that Correa's
>>>>> government is no exception, though.
>>>>> So he's the same as all governments. But anytime they're fighting each
>>>>> other instead of the people, that's a good thing for freedom, at least in
>>>>> the moment.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, August 31, 2014, Diego Saa <cuco.saa@???> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Correa is cool in that his policies contribute in moving away from
>>>>>> the centralization of power of the American Empire. However, he is not cool
>>>>>> in that he has a tendency to centralize all the state powers in himself,
>>>>>> undermining all freedoms and increasing the size of the state.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I feel a lot free-er in Ecuador than I did in the States, though (I
>>>>>> just returned to Ecuador from living in Florida for over 5 years).
>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2014 1:24 PM, "Özer Tayiz" <otayiz@???> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm living in Quito, Ecuador too. I have mixed feelings about
>>>>>>> Correa. I don't feel good about him creating his own fiat 2.0 currency,
>>>>>>> while banning bitcoin and other digital currencies. And some of his
>>>>>>> political decisions. This may be a reason for me to leave Ecuador.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Metatron YHVH <
>>>>>>> metatrongone@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can you really use Assange to validate this man's
>>>>>>>> character/motives?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Nicolás Mendoza <
>>>>>>>> nicolasmendo@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, if it weren't for Correa's BALLS, Julian
>>>>>>>>> Assange would probably be naked, cold and wet in some dark pit in a US
>>>>>>>>> military base awaiting trial. No one else in the world would take the heat
>>>>>>>>> for JA like Correa did.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 8:04 AM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. Good to know.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 08/31/2014 12:04 AM, Marco wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > Don't be fooled. Correa is a devil in disguise. I Live in
>>>>>>>>>> Ecuador, have
>>>>>>>>>> > for over 5 years & this guy is Obama # 2. Wolf in sheep's
>>>>>>>>>> clothing.
>>>>>>>>>> > American trained economy from some ivy league school. Sells of
>>>>>>>>>> all the
>>>>>>>>>> > jungle here to chinese interests. Shuts down local grassroots
>>>>>>>>>> activism
>>>>>>>>>> > via swat teams. Some years ago he had banned GMO & put it in the
>>>>>>>>>> > constitution, now 2 years later, he is desperately trying to
>>>>>>>>>> reverse
>>>>>>>>>> > course & promote GMOs in the country. Pretends he is against US
>>>>>>>>>> > "imperialism" but it is clear they both answer to the SAME
>>>>>>>>>> MASTERS. It's
>>>>>>>>>> > just a show, like those incredible speeches Obama gave in
>>>>>>>>>> 2006-7. This
>>>>>>>>>> > "electronic currency" is just fiat 2.0, a central bank response
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> > decentralized crypto currency which he has recently BANNED. I
>>>>>>>>>> had to
>>>>>>>>>> > turn off my GPU mining because I don't want to jeopardize my
>>>>>>>>>> freedom.
>>>>>>>>>> > Ecuadorian jails aren't pretty.
>>>>>>>>>> > Look to Putin or Morales if there is to be any hope in a
>>>>>>>>>> politician.
>>>>>>>>>> > Correa is a filthy pig, through & through.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > www.nondescrypt.net <http://www.nondescrypt.net> - Episode 2
>>>>>>>>>> > -Understanding Bitcoin for my take on it.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > :)
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > On 30 August 2014 12:06, Amir Taaki <genjix@???
>>>>>>>>>> > <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> http://phys.org/news/2014-08-ecuador-heralds-digital-currency.html
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >     Guys, I actually think this is pretty interesting. Rafael
>>>>>>>>>> Correa has an
>>>>>>>>>> >     economics background and an interesting personal history:

>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Correa#Early_life

>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >     He's an advocate of economic sovereignty.

>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >     Although I have mixed feelings about this which can be
>>>>>>>>>> interpreted in
>>>>>>>>>> >     multiple ways.

>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> PhD Researcher
>>>>>>>>> School of Creative Media
>>>>>>>>> City University of Hong Kong
>>>>>>>>> China PDR - HKSAR
>>>>>>>>>
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