It's this specific part of this article that has me not sleeping so
well for the first time in 5 years...

"The blatant targeting of Utne is highly suspect and appears
politically motivated – an attempt to intimidate and send a message
to foreigners who reside in Ecuador."
- http://amazonwatch.org/news/2014/0729-expelled-from-ecuador

Everything I have in the world is here. My land, my house, my family.
If I were sent back to Toronto because I speak out against evil (I
believe centralized systems are evil.) I would be sleeping on a park
bench.
They can't do that...
Can they ?
...Gulp...

Time for me & my wife to have a child in Ecuador, which would make us
the legal guardians of an Ecuadorian child....

Also I never imagined so many people from Ecuador were on this list...
I'm assuming Ecuador has a secret service by now.
Did I say filthy pig ? I think I meant to say he's not all that bad.
Or could be worse...
I like him actually, I might campaign for him next election. maybe.

:)

On dom, ago 31, 2014 at 10:01 PM, Diego Saa <cuco.saa@???> wrote:
> Sorry if I came through as having a fighting attitude... English is
> not my native language, so my choice of words might not be the most
> appropriate sometimes.
>
> However, I still hold that goading people to fight each other is just
> wrong. It is a concept used by many citizens of imperialist countries
> to, in their minds, morally justify their government's disregard of
> foreign national sovereignty.
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Josh Walker <josh@???>
> wrote:
>> Jesus Christ, man, it's a thought experiment and as such simplified
>> problem with constraints that don't apply to the real world. Why
>> couldn't I leave the room? Etc. It is a bloody thought experiment.
>>
>> Ironic that you seem ready to fight over whose a greater pacifist.
>> Your attitude on this disgusts me. This is the last I'll reply to
>> you on this subject.
>>
>> Please consider whether your use of declaratives is logical, as well
>> as the unconditionals. I hope you will have done so, next time we
>> speak. Which could be soon; I don't hold grudges or remember names
>> often.
>>
>> Peace.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, August 31, 2014, Diego Saa <cuco.saa@???> wrote:
>>> An even more preferable use of resources would be helping make
>>> peace. Goading others into fighting each other is fucked up, and
>>> will blow on your own face when those people realize what you are
>>> doing.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Josh Walker <josh@???>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Naturally.
>>>>
>>>> Let's say there are two fighters in a room, plus me. They refuse
>>>> to just crack a beer and relax, but rather insist on fighting.
>>>>
>>>> Although I would be justified to defend myself if pressed, it is a
>>>> preferable use of resources (time and energy) to goad them into
>>>> fighting each other.
>>>>
>>>> That's all I mean.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, August 31, 2014, Diego Saa <cuco.saa@???> wrote:
>>>>> I'm not sure that any kind of fighting is a good thing for
>>>>> freedom. To a certain extent, all governments fight other
>>>>> governments and also fight any dissenters amongst their own
>>>>> population. You are right in that Correa's government is no
>>>>> exception, though.
>>>>>
>>>>> So he's the same as all governments. But anytime they're fighting
>>>>> each other instead of the people, that's a good thing for
>>>>> freedom, at least in the moment.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, August 31, 2014, Diego Saa <cuco.saa@???> wrote:
>>>>>> Correa is cool in that his policies contribute in moving away
>>>>>> from the centralization of power of the American Empire.
>>>>>> However, he is not cool in that he has a tendency to centralize
>>>>>> all the state powers in himself, undermining all freedoms and
>>>>>> increasing the size of the state.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I feel a lot free-er in Ecuador than I did in the States, though
>>>>>> (I just returned to Ecuador from living in Florida for over 5
>>>>>> years).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2014 1:24 PM, "Özer Tayiz" <otayiz@???> wrote:
>>>>>>> I'm living in Quito, Ecuador too. I have mixed feelings about
>>>>>>> Correa. I don't feel good about him creating his own fiat 2.0
>>>>>>> currency, while banning bitcoin and other digital currencies.
>>>>>>> And some of his political decisions. This may be a reason for
>>>>>>> me to leave Ecuador.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Metatron YHVH
>>>>>>> <metatrongone@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Can you really use Assange to validate this man's
>>>>>>>> character/motives?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Nicolás Mendoza
>>>>>>>> <nicolasmendo@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, if it weren't for Correa's BALLS, Julian
>>>>>>>>> Assange would probably be naked, cold and wet in some dark
>>>>>>>>> pit in a US military base awaiting trial. No one else in the
>>>>>>>>> world would take the heat for JA like Correa did.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 8:04 AM, Amir Taaki
>>>>>>>>> <genjix@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. Good to know.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 08/31/2014 12:04 AM, Marco wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > Don't be fooled. Correa is a devil in disguise. I Live in
>>>>>>>>>> Ecuador, have
>>>>>>>>>> > for over 5 years & this guy is Obama # 2. Wolf in sheep's
>>>>>>>>>> clothing.
>>>>>>>>>> > American trained economy from some ivy league school.
>>>>>>>>>> Sells of all the
>>>>>>>>>> > jungle here to chinese interests. Shuts down local
>>>>>>>>>> grassroots activism
>>>>>>>>>> > via swat teams. Some years ago he had banned GMO & put it
>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>> > constitution, now 2 years later, he is desperately trying
>>>>>>>>>> to reverse
>>>>>>>>>> > course & promote GMOs in the country. Pretends he is
>>>>>>>>>> against US
>>>>>>>>>> > "imperialism" but it is clear they both answer to the SAME
>>>>>>>>>> MASTERS. It's
>>>>>>>>>> > just a show, like those incredible speeches Obama gave in
>>>>>>>>>> 2006-7. This
>>>>>>>>>> > "electronic currency" is just fiat 2.0, a central bank
>>>>>>>>>> response to
>>>>>>>>>> > decentralized crypto currency which he has recently
>>>>>>>>>> BANNED. I had to
>>>>>>>>>> > turn off my GPU mining because I don't want to jeopardize
>>>>>>>>>> my freedom.
>>>>>>>>>> > Ecuadorian jails aren't pretty.
>>>>>>>>>> > Look to Putin or Morales if there is to be any hope in a
>>>>>>>>>> politician.
>>>>>>>>>> > Correa is a filthy pig, through & through.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > www.nondescrypt.net <http://www.nondescrypt.net> -
>>>>>>>>>> Episode 2
>>>>>>>>>> > -Understanding Bitcoin for my take on it.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > :)
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > On 30 August 2014 12:06, Amir Taaki <genjix@???
>>>>>>>>>> > <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> http://phys.org/news/2014-08-ecuador-heralds-digital-currency.html
>>>>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>>>>> >     Guys, I actually think this is pretty interesting. 
>>>>>>>>>> Rafael Correa has an
>>>>>>>>>> >     economics background and an interesting personal 
>>>>>>>>>> history:

>>>>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>>>>> >     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Correa#Early_life

>>>>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>>>>> >     He's an advocate of economic sovereignty.

>>>>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>>>>> >     Although I have mixed feelings about this which can be 
>>>>>>>>>> interpreted in
>>>>>>>>>> >     multiple ways.

>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >

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>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> City University of Hong Kong
>>>>>>>>> China PDR - HKSAR
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