Sorry if I came through as having a fighting attitude... English is not my
native language, so my choice of words might not be the most appropriate
sometimes.
However, I still hold that goading people to fight each other is just
wrong. It is a concept used by many citizens of imperialist countries to,
in their minds, morally justify their government's disregard of foreign
national sovereignty.
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Josh Walker <josh@???> wrote:
> Jesus Christ, man, it's a thought experiment and as such simplified
> problem with constraints that don't apply to the real world. Why couldn't I
> leave the room? Etc. It is a bloody thought experiment.
>
> Ironic that you seem ready to fight over whose a greater pacifist. Your
> attitude on this disgusts me. This is the last I'll reply to you on this
> subject.
>
> Please consider whether your use of declaratives is logical, as well as
> the unconditionals. I hope you will have done so, next time we speak. Which
> could be soon; I don't hold grudges or remember names often.
>
> Peace.
>
>
> On Sunday, August 31, 2014, Diego Saa <cuco.saa@???> wrote:
>
>> An even more preferable use of resources would be helping make peace.
>> Goading others into fighting each other is fucked up, and will blow on your
>> own face when those people realize what you are doing.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Josh Walker <josh@???>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Naturally.
>>>
>>> Let's say there are two fighters in a room, plus me. They refuse to just
>>> crack a beer and relax, but rather insist on fighting.
>>>
>>> Although I would be justified to defend myself if pressed, it is a
>>> preferable use of resources (time and energy) to goad them into
>>> fighting each other.
>>>
>>> That's all I mean.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 31, 2014, Diego Saa <cuco.saa@???> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm not sure that any kind of fighting is a good thing for freedom. To
>>>> a certain extent, all governments fight other governments and also fight
>>>> any dissenters amongst their own population. You are right in that Correa's
>>>> government is no exception, though.
>>>> So he's the same as all governments. But anytime they're fighting each
>>>> other instead of the people, that's a good thing for freedom, at least in
>>>> the moment.
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, August 31, 2014, Diego Saa <cuco.saa@???> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Correa is cool in that his policies contribute in moving away from the
>>>>> centralization of power of the American Empire. However, he is not cool in
>>>>> that he has a tendency to centralize all the state powers in himself,
>>>>> undermining all freedoms and increasing the size of the state.
>>>>>
>>>>> I feel a lot free-er in Ecuador than I did in the States, though (I
>>>>> just returned to Ecuador from living in Florida for over 5 years).
>>>>> On Aug 31, 2014 1:24 PM, "Özer Tayiz" <otayiz@???> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm living in Quito, Ecuador too. I have mixed feelings about Correa.
>>>>>> I don't feel good about him creating his own fiat 2.0 currency, while
>>>>>> banning bitcoin and other digital currencies. And some of his political
>>>>>> decisions. This may be a reason for me to leave Ecuador.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Metatron YHVH <
>>>>>> metatrongone@???> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you really use Assange to validate this man's character/motives?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Nicolás Mendoza <
>>>>>>> nicolasmendo@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On the other hand, if it weren't for Correa's BALLS, Julian Assange
>>>>>>>> would probably be naked, cold and wet in some dark pit in a US military
>>>>>>>> base awaiting trial. No one else in the world would take the heat for JA
>>>>>>>> like Correa did.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 8:04 AM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you. Good to know.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 08/31/2014 12:04 AM, Marco wrote:
>>>>>>>>> > Don't be fooled. Correa is a devil in disguise. I Live in
>>>>>>>>> Ecuador, have
>>>>>>>>> > for over 5 years & this guy is Obama # 2. Wolf in sheep's
>>>>>>>>> clothing.
>>>>>>>>> > American trained economy from some ivy league school. Sells of
>>>>>>>>> all the
>>>>>>>>> > jungle here to chinese interests. Shuts down local grassroots
>>>>>>>>> activism
>>>>>>>>> > via swat teams. Some years ago he had banned GMO & put it in the
>>>>>>>>> > constitution, now 2 years later, he is desperately trying to
>>>>>>>>> reverse
>>>>>>>>> > course & promote GMOs in the country. Pretends he is against US
>>>>>>>>> > "imperialism" but it is clear they both answer to the SAME
>>>>>>>>> MASTERS. It's
>>>>>>>>> > just a show, like those incredible speeches Obama gave in
>>>>>>>>> 2006-7. This
>>>>>>>>> > "electronic currency" is just fiat 2.0, a central bank response
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> > decentralized crypto currency which he has recently BANNED. I
>>>>>>>>> had to
>>>>>>>>> > turn off my GPU mining because I don't want to jeopardize my
>>>>>>>>> freedom.
>>>>>>>>> > Ecuadorian jails aren't pretty.
>>>>>>>>> > Look to Putin or Morales if there is to be any hope in a
>>>>>>>>> politician.
>>>>>>>>> > Correa is a filthy pig, through & through.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > www.nondescrypt.net <http://www.nondescrypt.net> - Episode 2
>>>>>>>>> > -Understanding Bitcoin for my take on it.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > :)
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > On 30 August 2014 12:06, Amir Taaki <genjix@???
>>>>>>>>> > <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> http://phys.org/news/2014-08-ecuador-heralds-digital-currency.html
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Guys, I actually think this is pretty interesting. Rafael
>>>>>>>>> Correa has an
>>>>>>>>> > economics background and an interesting personal history:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Correa#Early_life
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > He's an advocate of economic sovereignty.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Although I have mixed feelings about this which can be
>>>>>>>>> interpreted in
>>>>>>>>> > multiple ways.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> School of Creative Media
>>>>>>>> City University of Hong Kong
>>>>>>>> China PDR - HKSAR
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