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Autor: Enric Duran Giralt
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Para: System undo crew
Assunto: Re: [unSYSTEM] Bitcoin, Startups, and Suicide: Being an Entrepreneur is Fucking Hard





Hey all!

      Being an enterpreneur is hard yes,  emotives words, Jason, thanks.


      but... there are a way to do it a bit less harder -> being
      enterpreneurs together as a coop


      i think that there are too much people leading one man/woman
      projects, (even enterpreneurs with different projects at the same
      time...)

      and too much people completly out of this role and even working or
      looking for work for others..


      In a coop, people not so smart, not so brave, not so ambituos, not
      so kamikaze...can also be part of an entrepeneur

      team, and do what he/she can not be able alone.


      The most proactive of the group needs to be generous with the
      skills and rhythms of everyone, and everyone needs to be generous
      with others, 

      specially for communication and understand each other.


      Also there are dificulties, like human relations problemes, but
      anyway, when the things are very hard, you not will be alone...


      In fact, dark wallet works as a coop, yes?

      so this coop culture here, needs to be remembered and be featured
      when we talk about entrepreneurship.


      best

      Enric




      El 28/08/14 17:21, Charlie 'Charles' Shrem escribió:


Thanks man :)

      On Thursday, August 28, 2014, Amir Taaki <
genjix@???>
      wrote:


        you will always prosper. you are a proactive individual and
        still young

        who was in bitcoin since the early days.

        just don't feel pressure to do anything, lay back and explore
        where you

        want to go. you will discover many paths in life, and your vales
        or

        experience will help you choose the right one for you.

        always remember why and be honest to yourself.

        looking back in my life, it has been an amazing serious of
        coincidences

        and the greatest ups and downs. when you have a risk taking
        personality,

        you often like to bet the whole house and I've lost many many
        times...

        and like an idiot I always go back for more :D either with a new

        strategy or because I want another crack.

        I would take your experience as a message that imparts you with
        new

        insights and a character building experience.


        We don't build character inside cosy apartments and easy
        lifestyle. I

        spent my life travelling in war zones, living in totalitarian
        regimes,

        occupying buildings, in activism and protests, wandering
        homeless and

        exploring lands and life in all different ways because I want to
        build

        character. To face any challenge unflinching with knowledge how
        to

        navigate dangerous territories and having the strength to strike
        out

        from the crowd as an independent free spirit is what I feel is
        the

        essence of being human.


        On 28/08/14 14:18, Charlie 'Charles' Shrem wrote:

        > I've been battling depression the past few months,
        hardcore. When they

        > put me in solitary I thought my life was over.

        >

        > I have all of you my friends to thank for keeping my
        spirits up and

        > Bitcoin for giving me a propose. I think back on the good
        times, eating

        > with Amir and Julia on my porch and partying with Jason in
        Atlanta.

        >

        > Let the good times roll :)

        >

        > On Thursday, August 28, 2014, Amir Taaki <
genjix@???
        > <mailto:
genjix@???>>
        wrote:

        >

        >     I wanted to kill myself over Bitcoinica. It was a very
        bad moment...

        >

        >     On 28/08/14 14:11, Jason King wrote:

        >     > For over a week now, I’ve been trying to write a
        year in review piece

        >     > for Satoshi Forest. The words, which usually just
        flow like a spigot

        >     > when I’m passionate about something, seem to just
        dribble out. And

        >     what

        >     > little eeks by is hardly print worthy. Maybe it’s
        just writer’s block?

        >     > Writer’s block happens. Or maybe I’m not as
        passionate about Satoshi

        >     > Forest as I used to be?

        >     >

        >     > But, I am passionate about Satoshi Forest, perhaps
        more than I

        >     ever have

        >     > been. And writer’s block, if it is the culprit,
        cannot explain why I

        >     > haven’t responded to Elizabeth Ploshay’s ALS Ice
        Bucket Challenge,

        >     in a

        >     > timely fashion. I guess I’ll have to donate now.
        You see it’s not just

        >     > the Satoshi Forest year in review, it’s
        everything. Emails from

        >     friends

        >     > I haven’t responded to, phone calls I let go to
        voicemail, new

        >     endeavors

        >     > at Sean’s Outpost I let sit unannounced

        >     > (
http://blockchain.satoshiforest.com/).
        And then it hits me. I’ve been

        >     > here before.

        >     >

        >     > I’m really depressed.

        >     >

        >     > And it seems to be going around.

        >     >

        >     > Since the tragic suicide of Robin Williams, four
        (4) people close

        >     to me

        >     > have also tried to kill themselves. One succeeded.
        An anecdotal survey

        >     > of my friends has seen an equal uptick in the
        number of people talking

        >     > about or attempting suicide. It’s been really
        disturbing.

        >     >

        >     > In the preparations for the Bitcoin in the Beltway
        conference this

        >     past

        >     > June, I had one of the more surreal conversations
        of my life. An east

        >     > coast sales director for Marriott called me
        wanting to know if bitcoin

        >     > was linked to suicide. They had heard of the
        tragic death of Autumn

        >     > Radtke in March

        >     >

        >     (
http://nypost.com/2014/03/06/bitcoin-firm-ceo-jumped-to-her-death-neighbor/)
        >     > and were concerned about hosting a conference for
        a technology

        >     that was

        >     > making people kill themselves. I was sure he was
        joking. He was

        >     not. The

        >     > conversation I had with him must have allayed his
        fears.

        >     #BitcoinBeltway

        >     > went great, can’t wait to do it again next year.

        >     >

        >     > Obviously, bitcoin does not cause suicide. And
        while we are quick to

        >     > sticky a “suicide prevention hotline” when the
        price crashes,

        >     bitcoin is

        >     > not causing depression. What we may want to look
        into is something

        >     that

        >     > is not bitcoin related, but more something that
        comes part and parcel

        >     > with “bitcoiners”.

        >     >

        >     > The woes of entrepreneurship and startup culture.

        >     >

        >     > Being an entrepreneur is fucking hard. Really
        hard. Most people don’t

        >     > even attempt it.

        >     >

        >     > It might not feel that way to you, but likely
        that’s because you

        >     > surround yourself with other entrepreneurs. Your
        friends work at

        >     > startups. Your trips are to startup conferences
        and conventions. Your

        >     > news feed is r/bitcoin and hacker news. You are
        firmly in the echo

        >     chamber.

        >     >

        >     > Most people will never try and build a product or
        company. So most

        >     > people will never experience what it is like to
        fear you won’t make

        >     > payroll and someone else will not be able to pay
        their rent

        >     because of you.

        >     >

        >     > Most people will never know how difficult it is to
        raise money. To get

        >     > someone else to believe in you enough to open
        their checkbook and

        >     > support you financially. The hours you spend and
        the mental strain

        >     that

        >     > comes from hearing “No” again and again and again.
        And if you get a

        >     > “Yes” the pressure doesn’t dissipate! It
        increases! Now it’s your

        >     crazy

        >     > idea and someone elses money you’re responsible
        for.

        >     >

        >     > Being an entrepreneur is really hard.

        >     >

        >     > And we are really hard on ourselves. We are afraid
        to show any

        >     weakness.

        >     > Because we’ve been taught being weak or vulnerable
        is to be

        >     shunned. If

        >     > someone asks you how your company is doing “We’re
        killing. it.”

        >     probably

        >     > comes off your lips before you’ve even processed
        the question.

        >     >

        >     > It is statistically impossible for everyone to
        always be “killing it”.

        >     >

        >     > But ask at your next mixer or meetup and almost
        everyone will be

        >     > “killing it”.

        >     >

        >     > And that pressure to succeed, to perform, to win
        is immense. And I

        >     think

        >     > that pressure may be even worse in bitcoin.

        >     >

        >     > Not to everyone, but to a lot of bitcoin early
        adopters, and

        >     especially

        >     > to a lot of early bitcoin entrepreneurs, bitcoin
        is a promise. A

        >     glimpse

        >     > of a better world free from the inequalities
        brought by our legacy

        >     > financial system. So if you fail in bitcoin, it is
        easy to feel

        >     that you

        >     > are failing on that promise too.

        >     >

        >     > I’ve felt that way. Felt that if I screw up I am
        screwing it up for

        >     > every non-profit and charity. That they will
        somehow not get the

        >     > benefits of bitcoin because I failed. I see it in
        others. Just a week

        >     > ago at #Cryptolina I talked with a group of
        brilliant

        >     entrepreneurs who

        >     > were convinced that if they didn’t beat an
        incumbent payment

        >     solution to

        >     > market, they had lost the war. And that whole
        segment of the market

        >     > would NEVER benefit from cryptocurrency.

        >     >

        >     > Being a bitcoin entrepreneur is hard.

        >     >

        >     > And I don’t have the answers to how to deal with
        all the pressure and

        >     > depression that come from doing what we do. But I
        have learned a

        >     couple

        >     > of things and maybe someone else that is
        experiencing depression or

        >     > having dark thoughts can read this and gain some
        value from what I’ve

        >     > learned. And even better, maybe someone that has
        dealt with depression

        >     > in the past can riff on what I’ve said and provide
        some insight

        >     into how

        >     > they cope.

        >     >

        >     > 1) You are not alone.

        >     >

        >     > When you are depressed, it seems like everyone
        else has it all

        >     together

        >     > and you are the anomaly. That’s not true. They
        probably don’t have

        >     their

        >     > shit together either. And everyone has problems we
        don’t see.

        >     Everyone.

        >     >

        >     > Some of the greatest entrepreneurs and investors
        of all time have had

        >     > brutal fights with depression and suicidal
        thoughts.

        >     >

        >     > READ:

        >     >

        >     >

        >     
http://www.inc.com/magazine/201309/jessica-bruder/psychological-price-of-entrepreneurship.html
        >     >

        >     > 2) Bitcoin needs you and it doesn’t need you. And
        that’s ok.

        >     >

        >     > Bitcoin needs you. It really does. But it doesn’t
        need only you, it

        >     > needs all of us. You are not the single point of
        failure. Bitcoins

        >     > success is just a decentralized as the blockchain.
        So give yourself a

        >     > break. It’s ok to make mistakes and it’s ok to
        fail. It’s even ok to

        >     > fail spectacularly.

        >     >

        >     > Think back to how many times bitcoin has been
        declared dead. How many

        >     > times has the price crashed? How many times has a
        major bitcoin

        >     > institution been corrupted/hacked/found to be a
        scam?

        >     >

        >     > And yet, here we are. An you are here too.

        >     >

        >     > 3) It is ok to ask for help.

        >     >

        >     > This is hard to learn. We come from a self
        sufficient culture. And if

        >     > you ask for help, people will realize that you are
        not as awesome as

        >     > they thought you were...BULLSHIT. Asking for help
        has ZERO bearing on

        >     > how awesome a person you are. In fact, your
        friends WANT TO HELP YOU.

        >     > Being there for you in a moment of crisis is
        something your

        >     friends are

        >     > probably really down for. But if you ignore them
        or won’t tell

        >     them you

        >     > are having problems it is really difficult for
        them to help. Talk to

        >     > someone. If all else fails you can always call…

        >     >

        >     > THE NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION LIFELINE:
        1-800-273-TALK (8255)

        >     >

        >     > I know all of this might not make a difference.
        When you are caught up

        >     > in your head in the middle of a depressive episode
        nothing seems to

        >     > help. Try to find something that you can
        concentrate on just to

        >     get you

        >     > thru the worst of it. For me, I go play with my
        kids. It helps me.

        >     > Sometimes more than others.

        >     >

        >     > If you are feeling down, try to talk to someone.
        And if you see

        >     someone

        >     > feeling down, try to lend a supportive ear.

        >     >

        >     > Bitcoin needs you alive.

        >     >

        >     >

        >     >

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        > Thanks,

        >

        > Charlie

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