@mats

Love your thoughts here.
And since we are Changing the World here i would like to Add, That the System should also know how to calculate All kind of other values. A coin could have All kind of rules added To iT. Like: this coin cannot be Used to buy weapons with. Or this coins devaluates when iT is Used for speculation. Or this coin is worth more cause iT resuced CO2 emmissions. Or this coin is worth more cause iT was Used for Creating acces to Fresh drinking water.

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> Op 20 mei 2014 om 20:42 heeft Mats-Erik Pistol <meapistol@???> het volgende geschreven:
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> Thinking just a little it is also clear that the new p2p darkmarket systems being programmed should include options for people to rent out a room, apartment, house, parking space, car, ... putting some pressure on Airbnb. If a common reputation system can be built it will be very costly to mount sting attacks. It will also be very difficult to track how much a subletter makes. The amount of cars parked and empty rooms in the world is staggering.
> I see another revolution in the making.
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>> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 2:40 PM, <coco@???> wrote:
>> a similar lawsuit has been started by spanish transport business companies cluster (FENE) (in march) at all posible courts recently against a thriving website for travel-sharing around europe, but specially for travel-sharing around spain. there are older ones in europe but not that much growing nowadays i'm quite sure..
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>> a video from one of the founders, where they say they (blablacar.es) are p2p website-platform....
>> http://allthingsd.com/video?s=blablacar
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>> their non-free software is based in gmaps travel expenses calculator API, which could be the criminilaty here....
>>
>> btw, blablacar they are implementing an optional (still...) system where you put money into your blabla account via bank, pay to blablacar mediating for booking x travel, and blabla notifies the driver you have paid. when you go to travel you confirm the driver brought you at destination and they pay him what you gave, (after getting a small "tax" for blabla i guess, but i am not actually sure how much, i never did).
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>> bitcoin and blabla escrows? for this bookings operating makes sense.
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>> blablacar is growing very much and making further communiting around the factual sharing culture it helps creating, such as presential meetings and tools for drivers sharing their cars between them are too hard to achieve now because we have a centralized selfcentered company at the top of and in the middle of it.
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>> getting into more polemics for such new safer scenarios to be built, my bet is for travel sharing that drivers say: 'i have to go there alone or with people yes or yes, please dear user: pay your 20% of the petrol and invite me to one in the way', the slogan of our app could then be "We have the best drivers in" :), it looks a very cheap project to achieve for much quick good it could bring.. i'm up for it...
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>> perhaps a feature reducing a 30% of what gmaps says it cost is safer... i don't know how it calculates the travel cost in kuwait though..
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>> El 2014-05-20 01:32, Jonathan Vaage escribió:
>>> Perhaps drivers may be more willing to accept the risk of a sting if
>>> they had the opportunity to purchase a form of insurance policy that
>>> covered a portion of the fines / penalties in the potentially rare
>>> case of a bust. Proof-of-burn pseudonyms, customer ratings, or a
>>> web-of-trust could reduce the risk of fraud and potentially the
>>> premiums for policy holders.
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Mats-Erik Pistol
>>> <meapistol@???> wrote:
>>>
>>>> For me it looks like an uber-like app but without a central company
>>>> would be an instant hit.
>>>> Payment of the rides in cash to avoid payment tracing. A reputation
>>>> system or web of trust to more or less whitelist customers to make
>>>> sting operations expensive as mentioned by Ranvier.
>>>> One could also envision transports being arranged this way.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 11:52 PM, Justus Ranvier
>>>> <justusranvier@???> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> On 05/08/2014 06:38 PM, Kristov Atlas wrote:
>>>>>> We can make this system shutdown-proof by blockchaining it, but
>>>>> of
>>>>>> course criminals can still attack people in meatspace. Similar
>>>>> challenge
>>>>>> with LocalBitcoins/Soft ATM approach for exchanging
>>>>> crypto-currencies
>>>>>> for cash. :-(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any ideas on how to deal with this weakness?
>>>>>
>>>>> They can't outlaw people who own cars from giving rides to other
>>>>> people,
>>>>> they can just outlaw (regulate) the act of doing it for payment.
>>>>>
>>>>> First thing to do is make it difficult for an uninvolved third
>>>>> party to
>>>>> prove the any payment has occurred. That's fairly easy to do with
>>>>> you're
>>>>> talking about decentralized digital currencies.
>>>>>
>>>>> The second thing to do reduce the risk of a sting operation. This
>>>>> is
>>>>> basically the same problem that prostitutes run into and one of
>>>>> the ways
>>>>> that industry solves it is by rating customers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Driver who are willing to take on the risk of an unrated customer
>>>>> would
>>>>> charge more and drivers who don't want the risk would charge
>>>>> less.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps some kind of web-of-trust could be used here, and
>>>>> actually such
>>>>> a system would have many applications in the informal economy
>>>>> generally.
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