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Auteur: Adam Gibson
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Aan: System undo crew
Onderwerp: Re: [unSYSTEM] Former Skype COO- I love this guy
I don't see wisdom. I see obfuscation. He wants to tell us that "we
figured it out". I can't see how that is in any way true, and have
explained why (probably ad nauseam by now :)

What does his example hold?


On 05/27/2014 11:36 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:
> I see a lot of wisdom in his words. The power of his ideas is what
> sways me. We should always listen, and not be
> judgemental/dogmatic.
>
> I don't use Skype. It's NSA infected and proprietary crap.
>
> His example though is instructive, and definitely holds.
>
> On 05/27/2014 10:25 PM, Adam Gibson wrote:
>> <cross posted from private message>
>>
>> ... but let's look at the actual issues at hand - the Skype model
>> and the content of the article.
>>
>> On that, I remain profoundly unimpressed by the content of the
>> article - which is basically trying to say that Bitcoin can learn
>> from Skype. No, the Skype model is not one for Bitcoiners to
>> emulate, arguably it's not really relevant.
>>
>> Some points from the article:
>>
>> "These principles allowed us to operate Skype across the whole
>> world, with minimal legal costs and no effect on the main parts
>> of the business"
>>
>> This is what I mean by "disingenuous" and "ducking and diving".
>> They managed to avoid getting caught in the net just long enough
>> like this - but when it came down to it, they just sold their IP
>> to eBay and then Microsoft. If they really had some brilliant
>> plan to work in this way, why are they not still working like
>> that today?
>>
>> "Most importantly, these lessons enabled Skype to become one of
>> the leading tools that people use to communicate and forged the
>> way to achieving our original dream. A dream that has become
>> reality. Today, the whole world can indeed talk for free. Bitcoin
>> companies have the potential to make the same waves in the
>> financial sphere."
>>
>> In this passage he actually claims that Skype *today* has become
>> the dream of people talking for free. People think this is great?
>> Am I accidentally in the NSA mailing list here?
>>
>> That's just two snippets. I think I could find 3 or 4 more to
>> support the gist of my argument, but this is already long.
>>
>> Skype is not a success story for those of us interested in
>> freedom. It's a story of selling out. And it all comes back to
>> the idea of decentralisation - Skype's was (and of course still
>> is) proprietary, so that its peer to peer nature was never a
>> defence against regulation or government power. Bitcoin was and
>> remains 100% open source, and that's a sine qua non.
>>
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