Their 2010 manifesto was drivel, which ranted too much about little things
without focusing on major economic and social improvement.

The head of their youth wing wasn't fired for supporting gay marriage, he
was fired for opening up a discussion about necrophilia and beastiality.
Which the party decided wasn't towards their interests.

http://order-order.com/2013/01/09/ukip-former-chairman-i-agree-with-nick-griffin-sources-gay-marriage-was-tip-of-iceberg/

I have no doubt that they will probably become more authoritarian, as all
parties do once they achieve a certain amount of power, but if all they
achieve is forcing the other parties to be more competitive through fear,
then that is a good thing.

I actually thing they've had a fairly decent immigration policy in their
past manifesto, which would encourage people with skills from everywhere,
rather than shunning them to prefer freedom of movement within the EU
trading block.


On 27 May 2014 11:00, Charlotte Bowyer <charlotte@???> wrote:

> There was a point a few years ago where quite a few UK libertarians
> thought that UKIP stood a chance of being a good, (classical) liberal party
> - they had a number of anti-state, pro individual liberty policies in their
> 2010 manifesto. Then again, this is the Manifesto that Farage has basically
> disowned and labelled 'drivel' earlier this year:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25879302
>
> A lot of the more libertarian members of the youth wing have jumped ship
> nowadays, with the head of it sacked for publicly being in favour of gay
> marriage. While they might be anti-EU and that might be a great thing for
> freedom (I'm torn on this issue), UKIP have ridden the protest party wave
> and are happy to pander to the disillusioned from all parties, be it
> Conservatives, Labour or BNP. UKIP are becoming (and I imagine will
> continue to be) increasingly authoritarian as they seek to promise all
> things to all men.
>
> While a commitment to legalising drugs and lower taxes (at least for now)
> are admirable, things like restricting the movement of people, supporting
> Trident, opposing gay marriage and supporting capital punishment etc etc
> are all very much less so. I don't think UKIP's recent success (sadly) has
> much to do with a new wave of libertarian sentiment (double sadly) so much
> as frustration & boredom with the status quo, opportunism and I think a
> very misplaced idea that much of people's everyday woes will be removed if
> we could get rid of EU Bureaucracy / Polish people.
>
> On a side note however, it's frustrating when UKIP are labelled 'racist'
> when their discrimination isn't based upon race. They're largely xenophobic
> and that is a bad thing, but really is not the same as being racist.
>
>
> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:12 AM, jamileh s.t. <xiaziyna@???>wrote:
>
>> i sure believe that we need no eu or any other body, but as incremental
>> changes go the eu have been a good one. i only wish the eu was a communist
>> superstate, but i'm also happy with being able to travel between borders
>> and share a currency system and to just have less of this "we are the great
>> britain" bs
>>
>>
>> On 27 May 2014 08:19, Lucas Betschart <lucasbetschart@???> wrote:
>>
>>> 2014-05-27 8:53 GMT+02:00 jamileh s.t. <xiaziyna@???>:
>>>
>>> the eu was a step away from nation states and to viewing humanity as a
>>>> whole.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Wow you really must be brain washed if you believe that. The EU was
>>> build to rule all European people. It's a communist super state. They are
>>> even called the same like in UDSSR, commissioners.
>>> You can have human rights and peaceful living without having the EU.
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