It's pretty simple really. The government is not doing what the people want
- they lie to get into office, then do whatever they please calling it
democracy. Libdem/Labour/Conservative seem to be all the same in the end.
So the UKIP offer to address something that actually bothers people in the
UK, and clearly will do something about it. The government have only
themselves to blame for this: rather than follow the will of the people,
they are following their own agenda. It's also quite amusing to watch how
the "undesirable" parties are labelled as extremists, racists and
terrorists in some cases - but isn't this just part of the game? After all,
yesterday's "terrorists and bigots" are now today's mainstream politicians
in N.Ireland. This is all BS. If the government in the UK would actually
protect British rights, there would be no need for UKIP. FWIW, immigration
control in the UK has unfairly aimed at non-EU citizens simply because they
are the only people subject to immigration controls. Anyone from EU can
live/work/claim benefits in the UK without any application, they just hop
on a train and move. Non-EU citizens have to apply for visas. Since it's
not possible to cut down EU migration (without pulling out of EU) the
politicians opt to harm non-EU people. That is frankly racist. UKIP on the
other hand are saying all migration should be controlled, including from
the EU. This also affects British citizens who for example, are now are
deprived of the ability to bring their foreign spouses to the UK because of
these draconian rules now (requiring all sort of unattainable requirements)
- only rich people can afford the visas and meet the requirements, yet
anyone can walk in from the EU and claim benefits.

While I am very surprised the UKIP got serious share of the electorate
considering their bad image, it's clear why they got the vote.

This is the beginning of a meltdown, not only of the financial system, but
now Europe itself. Don't be surprised, this is the time of great paradigm
shifts and great turmoil is ahead for sure.


On 26 May 2014 16:06, Tim Patrick <judoman589@???> wrote:

> Some of my mates in Britain who are libertarians both like and hate UKIP,
> idk, seems like they are libertarian on some issues, and not so much on
> other issues.
>
>
> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Robert Williamson <bobalot@???>wrote:
>
>> It's certainly strange to see them win, /r/ukpolitics has been in
>> meltdown the past few weeks over this, as they see them as being evil
>> people with a pseudo libertarian front and that all of the pro-Farage
>> postings there have been solely due to a 4chan invasion.
>>
>> What this really shows is that politics in the UK has changed, parties
>> are going to have to start offering the public a better service for a lower
>> cost, all the lib dem/labour/conservatives have been saying for the past
>> few months is don't vote Ukip because they are "racist", they want to make
>> public sector cuts, they're "homophobic", they want to legalise drugs, they
>> "help" terrorists because they are against surveillance.
>>
>> This is just the biggest increase in competition in the UK political
>> space for nearly 100 years and will force the other parties to start being
>> more legitimate and offer up sensible alternatives to them.
>>
>> Perhaps bigger news in this EU election isn't Ukip, but rather the 25% FN
>> in France and other places across the EU. People have started to see that
>> the EU is a net waste in terms of value for money and that being forced to
>> receive bailouts against the will of the public is bad for them
>> (Greece/Ireland/Portugal/Spain)
>>
>> I think people are starting to see that there's a bigger political fight
>> going on, rather than just left/right liberal/conservative, we're in a
>> period of major authoritarianism from the worlds governments and Ukip seem
>> to many people to be a step away from that.
>>
>> http://i.imgur.com/Ipa1SIr.png
>>
>>
>> On 26 May 2014 11:41, Drak <drak@???> wrote:
>>
>>> It is irony. UKIP are against the EU... Maybe the government will take
>>> the hint now about British sentiment towards the EU...
>>> On 26 May 2014 08:29, "jamileh s.t." <xiaziyna@???> wrote:
>>>
>>>> is that sarcasm?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 26 May 2014 03:28, Jonathan James Harrison <
>>>> jonathanjamesharrison@???> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> UKIP gets the more votes than any other party (UK) for the european
>>>>> elections.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's the most anti establishment libertarian vote out there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yay!
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