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Autor: Troy Benjegerdes
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Para: System undo crew
Assunto: Re: [unSYSTEM] the gw of darkwallet can cost 4.2M USD.
My business model is give the best away under AGPLv3 and sell the rights to
keep your vendor lock-in confidential. Everybody wins. AGPLv3 hardware here:
http://q3u.be/patent/q3ube/

By integrating open source projects and understanding computing fundamentals, I
can do things that would cost 10 or 100 million when using the traditional VC
funded route, and all it costs my clients is enough cash so I can plant non-GMO
corn and soybeans without taking any bank loans.

I've also come to the conclusion I need to find a soybean variety that I can
protect with a trademark and AGPLv3 hardware and software to track it from seed
to soymilk. Using the AGPLv3 on the system gives anyone the right to save and
plant their own seeds. However, if 'big food' wants to market that variety and
my system of certifying seed origin, they will probably want an AGPLv3 exception
license. As with proprietary software licenses, the risk of a non-compliance
allegation is too high for a big company.

On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 08:25:52PM +0200, Amir Taaki wrote:
> Follow the works of Pieter Hintjens,
> http://hintjens.com/blog:27
> http://zguide.zeromq.org/page:all#toc7
> I'm a huge fan of him.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_models_for_open-source_software
> Blender is a very successful project considering what they do.
> You can fund opensource dev, but it's important to cultivate community.
> Sometimes there are mental traps that hold us all back, and you need to
> think with true foresight which sometimes naysayers can doubt. During
> those moments it's experience that can keep us true to our vision
> unshaken, and also helps to have good people around. Trust in old
> friends, work for the small guys and serve your community. It works.
>
> For me I see the opensource revolution beginning, wikipedia, linux,
> wikileaks have all done a lot already.
>
> On 05/25/2014 08:13 PM, Wladimir wrote:
> > On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???> wrote:
> >> Wlad I had people coming to me before telling me to make libbitcoin
> >> closed... you can have some part open but we need to "own" something.
> >
> > Right, it's how society sees things. After all if you don't own
> > patents or enforce copyright, you're just giving things away so how do
> > you want to survive at all?
> >
> >> For me the crazy part is the amount of resources I see thrown around.
> >> It's the realities of misallocation and a skewed market directly in your
> >> face.
> >
> > It's extremely skewed indeed. One of the problems is that there
> > appears to be no business model for P2P infrastructure that everyone
> > can use, where you have no special rights to insert ads or monitor
> > users and sell their information.
> >
> > Crowd-funding and bounties seem to be only partially useful there.
> > They work initially for high profile projects, but not for maintenance
> > in the longer run.
> >
> > Then how to fund decentralized solutions? If developers have to spend
> > all day convincing people to crowdfund every bugfix, troubleshooting,
> > and small change that would be a bureaucratic nightmare.
> >
> > Much easier to get big bucks by catering to VCs and build a service
> > that people will use for (at most) a few years after which it fades
> > into obscurity. Or if you're very lucky, the next monopoly. I do think
> > humanity as a whole would be helped much more with lasting,
> > standardized and decentralized infrastructure.
> >
> >> I've stopped labouring under the pretension of clamboring for my rights
> >> and equal opportunity before the system, because the corruption is
> >> endemic to the soul of its operation.
> >> Instead seeking the liberation of markets where the power of our ideas
> >> can prove or disprove themselves. I only seek fair competition.
> >
> > On one level competition is good to keep everyone awake, but on
> > another level, we also need more cooperation. Individualistic
> > competition results in a lot of duplication of effort - and a very
> > short-term memory - which you can especially see in IT, where
> > everything gets reinvented with a different name every few years,
> > little learning from lessons of history, so much lost for example when
> > a company goes under.
> >
> > Wladimir
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> >
>




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