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Autor: Cody R Wilson
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Para: System undo crew
Assunto: Re: [unSYSTEM] Foundation funding for Dark Wallet (Was: Don't mix because of taint + comments ...)
To be clear, I've never been invited to Foundation sponsored events. I'd
attend and speak, so maybe that's why.


On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Jaromil <jaromil@???> wrote:

> On Thu, 22 May 2014, Joerg Platzer wrote:
>
> > And you do complain about the list of speakers at their conference.
> > Yet you would not speak there I guess. Neither would Cody or
> > Antonopolous and I have to admit that I have to count myself in there,
> > having turned down their offer to a seat on a panel there for the same
> > reason.
>
> I would blame Amir only if he'd be ranting while doing nothing for the
> community, but he is well active on other fronts. so I'm fine with his
> strong opinion and boycotting attitude even if I don't agree with all of
> it. I just don't think is inconsistent. OTOH we could consider the
> "sacrifice" of a presence in that place a service to the community if
> done to vehicule the original values behind Bitcoin within the
> institutionalization process of the foundation.
>
> > It only occured to me later that if alone the people named (Jaromil
> > were you there?)
>
> Despite living close by I was not invited at all. I have no idea who are
> the local organizers really. I found the program overly boring and
> predictable to be honest and due to other work I could be there only a
> day before to meet some people off-stage. Had quite some beerz with
> Jorge and Sipa the whole evening, was very nice :^)
>
> I hear from others who where there that wasn't that interesting.
>
>
> > would have been on there and shown where Bitcoin is coming from and
> > where and why we think the journey should go further, this might not
> > have been such a bad idea.
>
> sure. but well on the wave of my long-term outspoken activity in the
> hacker scene I really don't want to become an hyper-famous talking head
> of sorts. I think I'm appearing around enough already (and have some
> code to write eheh). The best I could do is put some history on paper
> with an academic article, I guess that's enough for one.
>
> In unsystem for instance there are already a lot more people able to
> bring that spirit up in view of the audience and remind it to
> institutional foundation of sorts. As the multitude aspect of Bitcoin
> was a success for the project in its early stages, it is now the best
> strategy to honor and represent the multiplicity of voices, avoid
> mediatic hegemonization and show the diversity and enthusiasm of the
> communities at large.
>
> Personally I'd like to see more visibility for CIC and similar
> initiatives starting all over Europe.
>
>
> > Another fact: there are still a lot of people in the foundation who
> > would love to see speakers like us on their conference and who would
> > still love to see foundation money being spent on prjects aiming at
> > enabling people to take the control over their own business back into
> > their own hands instead of controlling them.
>
> > Maybe we should not let these forces down but strengthen them instead
> > (and I was really startled when someone the other day actually said to
> > me "man, you let us down").
>
> well... another foundation member here is planning to leave it next
> year... I think you really need to think this well through. If you guys
> leave then please make it in a loud and coordinated way, don't disappear
> without making your point and use that energy to create something else
> or to reinforce this very initiative. And consider that as a visible
> crack is opening across the community, no more people from this side
> will be able to enter in the future, the foundation will just become
> more closed and biased.
>
> at last, about Amir's feelings on Gavin: I think he is right on many
> points and I do know that also in the core team there is some common
> sense in thinking that there should be a new maintainer now. Maybe that
> will change something? Not Sure. But without an attempt to keep the
> foundation focused on the ethics of Bitcoin for sure we won't have
> someone like Amir in that position next; to the contrary, maybe there
> will be somoene worst than Gavin.
>
> ciao
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Sincerely,

Cody R. Wilson
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The University of Texas School of Law
Class of 2014