I've contributed reviews for the Bitcoin Foundation grants process twice
now, and I intend to continue doing so (as I don't feel any moral
compulsion against this). I would give any privacy/fungibility project the
highest points for importance/significance, and would pitch a fit if I felt
it was ignored due to some categorical opposition of financial privacy.
That said, they've given out low amounts ($20k in total per quarter so far)
and I haven't actually figured out how the nontransparent process works so
far.

I think DarkWallet (or something related in similar spirit) should submit a
grant proposal (and resubmit it every quarter if necessary!)


On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Cody R Wilson <codywilson@???>wrote:

> To be clear, I've never been invited to Foundation sponsored events. I'd
> attend and speak, so maybe that's why.
>
>
> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Jaromil <jaromil@???> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 22 May 2014, Joerg Platzer wrote:
>>
>> > And you do complain about the list of speakers at their conference.
>> > Yet you would not speak there I guess. Neither would Cody or
>> > Antonopolous and I have to admit that I have to count myself in there,
>> > having turned down their offer to a seat on a panel there for the same
>> > reason.
>>
>> I would blame Amir only if he'd be ranting while doing nothing for the
>> community, but he is well active on other fronts. so I'm fine with his
>> strong opinion and boycotting attitude even if I don't agree with all of
>> it. I just don't think is inconsistent. OTOH we could consider the
>> "sacrifice" of a presence in that place a service to the community if
>> done to vehicule the original values behind Bitcoin within the
>> institutionalization process of the foundation.
>>
>> > It only occured to me later that if alone the people named (Jaromil
>> > were you there?)
>>
>> Despite living close by I was not invited at all. I have no idea who are
>> the local organizers really. I found the program overly boring and
>> predictable to be honest and due to other work I could be there only a
>> day before to meet some people off-stage. Had quite some beerz with
>> Jorge and Sipa the whole evening, was very nice :^)
>>
>> I hear from others who where there that wasn't that interesting.
>>
>>
>> > would have been on there and shown where Bitcoin is coming from and
>> > where and why we think the journey should go further, this might not
>> > have been such a bad idea.
>>
>> sure. but well on the wave of my long-term outspoken activity in the
>> hacker scene I really don't want to become an hyper-famous talking head
>> of sorts. I think I'm appearing around enough already (and have some
>> code to write eheh). The best I could do is put some history on paper
>> with an academic article, I guess that's enough for one.
>>
>> In unsystem for instance there are already a lot more people able to
>> bring that spirit up in view of the audience and remind it to
>> institutional foundation of sorts. As the multitude aspect of Bitcoin
>> was a success for the project in its early stages, it is now the best
>> strategy to honor and represent the multiplicity of voices, avoid
>> mediatic hegemonization and show the diversity and enthusiasm of the
>> communities at large.
>>
>> Personally I'd like to see more visibility for CIC and similar
>> initiatives starting all over Europe.
>>
>>
>> > Another fact: there are still a lot of people in the foundation who
>> > would love to see speakers like us on their conference and who would
>> > still love to see foundation money being spent on prjects aiming at
>> > enabling people to take the control over their own business back into
>> > their own hands instead of controlling them.
>>
>> > Maybe we should not let these forces down but strengthen them instead
>> > (and I was really startled when someone the other day actually said to
>> > me "man, you let us down").
>>
>> well... another foundation member here is planning to leave it next
>> year... I think you really need to think this well through. If you guys
>> leave then please make it in a loud and coordinated way, don't disappear
>> without making your point and use that energy to create something else
>> or to reinforce this very initiative. And consider that as a visible
>> crack is opening across the community, no more people from this side
>> will be able to enter in the future, the foundation will just become
>> more closed and biased.
>>
>> at last, about Amir's feelings on Gavin: I think he is right on many
>> points and I do know that also in the core team there is some common
>> sense in thinking that there should be a new maintainer now. Maybe that
>> will change something? Not Sure. But without an attempt to keep the
>> foundation focused on the ethics of Bitcoin for sure we won't have
>> someone like Amir in that position next; to the contrary, maybe there
>> will be somoene worst than Gavin.
>>
>> ciao
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>
> Cody R. Wilson
> codywilson@???
>
> The University of Texas School of Law
> Class of 2014
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