"There are no $20 bills without cocain on them."



Yes, there are actually 20USD bills with no cocaine on them. The fresher they have come out of the printing press the higher the chance of them not being contaminated.



But that is not even the right analogy for what is being seen as 'clean' bitcoins.



The analogy would be: "proof that this Dollar bill has never been used in an illegal activity _and_ that ist has never been sitting in a wallet with any other notes, that have been used in illegal activities!"



See where this is going? Banks want to jump on the Bitcoin-wagon but the only way for them to do so and appear clean in front of the government is to aquire virgin coins directly from the miners and keeping those coins clean by not allowing them to circulate. They can then sell nicely regulated IOUs to these coins to their customers.



Anyone else seeing a spread comming up between virgin coins being sold directly from the miners and the ones that have been in circulation and therefor being tainted? :)



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Von: unSYSTEM [unsystem-bounces@???]" im Auftrag von "ben [colypse@???]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. Mai 2014 09:44
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"There are no $20 bills without cocain on them." (Bitcoin will at least not give us hepatitis.. ;)


2014-05-22 2:14 GMT+02:00 Joerg Platzer <joerg@???<mailto:joerg@room77.de>>:



I am a member of the foundation but many of you have seen and heard me personally ranting about it, louder, clearer and more public than some bonkers on mailing-lists or paranoid reddit-threads.



The reason, why I am still a member is because I see a clear struggle going on inside foundation between the 'let's get some regulation in here'-idiots on one hand and people with exactly the same spirit which is expressed by most folks on this list here and which I share on the other side.



I do so far believe that it is probably a good idea to keep that spirit up inside the foundation and not completely leave that playing field to the statists. I do admit that I am not so sure about this sometimes and that I may be wrong though.



We could find out though. When the foundation is getting more and more occupied and infiltrated by these people, who do not share the free-thinking and freedom-loving spirit which we have, then why not try counter-infiltrate that group?



What if a group of dark-wallet / dark-market enthusiasts (of which I am one) forms a group inside the foundation and demands funding for precisely these projects without compromising on any of the functionality? This might get more support than you believe.



And, while we're at it: why not be real about it and actually UNlicensing the code of dark wallet, which as far as know, is actually still under some statist-license, actually relying on the armed power of the government to enforce it?



Just ideas on a rainy warm summer evening ...



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Von: unSYSTEM [unsystem-bounces@???<mailto:unsystem-bounces@lists.dyne.org>]" im Auftrag von "Matt [millsdmb@???<mailto:millsdmb@gmail.com>]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. Mai 2014 00:33
An: System undo crew
Betreff: Re: [unSYSTEM] Don't mix because of taint + comments about exchanges doing taint analysis

Thankfully, Dark Wallet will keep me sane amidst these crazy people who say they speak in my best interests when all I hear is ideas for destruction of bitcoin's fungiblity.

I will worry most on the first day that one of my transactions gets blocked by BitPay, for being dirty. I've already gotten coins from blockchain.info<http://blockchain.info>'s sharedcoin marked "FLEXCOIN STOLEN COINS". Spent without issue, the way it should be.

       Meanwhile people are jumping for the $10 without realising they are the product, and are            helping further the development of blacklisting and surveillance technologies (wonder why           Circle has hired Mike Hearn<http://www.coindesk.com/circle-advisory-board-members-burns-appointment/>[4] ).

such a amazingly true insight, too, Amir.

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???<mailto:genjix@riseup.net>> wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/25yhtn/my_worry_with_bitcoin_as_a_network_engineer/chm5ufl?context=3

you rant and you rave but you look crazy.
conspiracies aren't real until the proof is undeniable.

On 05/21/2014 11:45 PM, Matt wrote:
> and it's all under the guise of the "best interests" of the community.
> These guys make me sick.
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> Matt Milsap
> 203.837.6743<tel:203.837.6743> (mobile)
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>>>     On 05/21/2014 12:59 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:
>>>>     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si-2niFDgtI&t=2m28s
>>>>     "you must ask myself, are my coins likely to be worse than who i'm
>>>>     mixing with"

>>>>

>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si-2niFDgtI&t=4m01s
>>>>     "any exchange worth its salt will have taint analysis"

>>>>

>>>>     sketchy

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