Circle has a negative connotation to me. I think DarkCircle would be
better, but that is just my subjective opinion.


On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Marvin Fernandes
<marvin@???>wrote:

> Guys
>
> Darkwallet Should Change its name due To a negative connotation. Also
> Wallet refers to old economy while bc is so Much more.
>
>
>
> Letting house, car, parking etc Good idea ! unsystem
> Could be prepared to be Able to Trade CO2 emmissions too!
>
> Spectrum
>
> Op 20 mei 2014 om 19:42 heeft Mats-Erik Pistol <meapistol@???> het
> volgende geschreven:
>
> Thinking just a little it is also clear that the new p2p darkmarket
> systems being programmed should include options for people to rent out a
> room, apartment, house, parking space, car, ... putting some pressure on
> Airbnb. If a common reputation system can be built it will be very costly
> to mount sting attacks. It will also be very difficult to track how much a
> subletter makes. The amount of cars parked and empty rooms in the world is
> staggering.
> I see another revolution in the making.
>
>
> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 2:40 PM, <coco@???> wrote:
>
>> a similar lawsuit has been started by spanish transport business
>> companies cluster (FENE) (in march) at all posible courts recently against
>> a thriving website for travel-sharing around europe, but specially for
>> travel-sharing around spain. there are older ones in europe but not that
>> much growing nowadays i'm quite sure..
>>
>>
>> a video from one of the founders, where they say they (blablacar.es) are
>> p2p website-platform....
>> http://allthingsd.com/video?s=blablacar
>>
>> their non-free software is based in gmaps travel expenses calculator API,
>> which could be the criminilaty here....
>>
>> btw, blablacar they are implementing an optional (still...) system where
>> you put money into your blabla account via bank, pay to blablacar mediating
>> for booking x travel, and blabla notifies the driver you have paid. when
>> you go to travel you confirm the driver brought you at destination and they
>> pay him what you gave, (after getting a small "tax" for blabla i guess, but
>> i am not actually sure how much, i never did).
>>
>> bitcoin and blabla escrows? for this bookings operating makes sense.
>>
>>
>>
>> blablacar is growing very much and making further communiting around the
>> factual sharing culture it helps creating, such as presential meetings and
>> tools for drivers sharing their cars between them are too hard to achieve
>> now because we have a centralized selfcentered company at the top of and in
>> the middle of it.
>>
>>
>> getting into more polemics for such new safer scenarios to be built, my
>> bet is for travel sharing that drivers say: 'i have to go there alone or
>> with people yes or yes, please dear user: pay your 20% of the petrol and
>> invite me to one in the way', the slogan of our app could then be "We have
>> the best drivers in" :), it looks a very cheap project to achieve for much
>> quick good it could bring.. i'm up for it...
>>
>> perhaps a feature reducing a 30% of what gmaps says it cost is safer... i
>> don't know how it calculates the travel cost in kuwait though..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> El 2014-05-20 01:32, Jonathan Vaage escribió:
>>
>>> Perhaps drivers may be more willing to accept the risk of a sting if
>>> they had the opportunity to purchase a form of insurance policy that
>>> covered a portion of the fines / penalties in the potentially rare
>>> case of a bust. Proof-of-burn pseudonyms, customer ratings, or a
>>> web-of-trust could reduce the risk of fraud and potentially the
>>> premiums for policy holders.
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Mats-Erik Pistol
>>> <meapistol@???> wrote:
>>>
>>> For me it looks like an uber-like app but without a central company
>>>> would be an instant hit.
>>>> Payment of the rides in cash to avoid payment tracing. A reputation
>>>> system or web of trust to more or less whitelist customers to make
>>>> sting operations expensive as mentioned by Ranvier.
>>>> One could also envision transports being arranged this way.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 11:52 PM, Justus Ranvier
>>>> <justusranvier@???> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 05/08/2014 06:38 PM, Kristov Atlas wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> We can make this system shutdown-proof by blockchaining it, but
>>>>>>
>>>>> of
>>>>>
>>>>>> course criminals can still attack people in meatspace. Similar
>>>>>>
>>>>> challenge
>>>>>
>>>>>> with LocalBitcoins/Soft ATM approach for exchanging
>>>>>>
>>>>> crypto-currencies
>>>>>
>>>>>> for cash. :-(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any ideas on how to deal with this weakness?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> They can't outlaw people who own cars from giving rides to other
>>>>> people,
>>>>> they can just outlaw (regulate) the act of doing it for payment.
>>>>>
>>>>> First thing to do is make it difficult for an uninvolved third
>>>>> party to
>>>>> prove the any payment has occurred. That's fairly easy to do with
>>>>> you're
>>>>> talking about decentralized digital currencies.
>>>>>
>>>>> The second thing to do reduce the risk of a sting operation. This
>>>>> is
>>>>> basically the same problem that prostitutes run into and one of
>>>>> the ways
>>>>> that industry solves it is by rating customers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Driver who are willing to take on the risk of an unrated customer
>>>>> would
>>>>> charge more and drivers who don't want the risk would charge
>>>>> less.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps some kind of web-of-trust could be used here, and
>>>>> actually such
>>>>> a system would have many applications in the informal economy
>>>>> generally.
>>>>>
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