Essentially what is being discussed at
https://github.com/OpenBazaar/OpenBazaar/issues/9 is combining a proof of
burn identity combined with a bitcoin-OTC style web of trust. Really great
conversation happening there by the way.
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Andrew Miller <amiller@???> wrote:
> Its easy to tarnish someone's reputation by posting publicly about them,
> even if its false. Its hard for anyone to tell whether the aggreivances are
> legitimate. For example someone popular can harm someone, that person can
> post about it, and everyone will side with the popular person. Also there
> is no real incentive to post accurate reputation information, at best doing
> so is an altruistic thing.
>
> I think there are solutions to this but it is a bit complicated.
> Essentially a reputation should always involve something "at stake". The
> closest thing to what I have in mind is a system called TrustDavis, and it
> is essentially peer to peer insurance.
> On May 19, 2014 4:12 PM, "Sidney Zhang" <sidazhang89@???> wrote:
>
>> 'I have a way to ensure reputation is always kept with identity.'
>>
>> Can you elaborate a bit more? Is the reputation kept on chain?
>>
>> 'I don't have a way to prevent reputation spam though without costing the
>> person leaving reputation (not a good incentive structure).'
>>
>> If someone does something bad, can't we just have everyone start ignoring
>> their fidelity bond? Forcing them to repay another bond under a different
>> identity?
>>
>> On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a way to ensure reputation is always kept with identity.
>>>
>>> I don't have a way to prevent reputation spam though without costing the
>>> person leaving reputation (not a good incentive structure).
>>>
>>> On 05/20/2014 12:56 AM, Sidney Zhang wrote:
>>> > It means that it is extremely expensive to mine identity. So a better
>>> > reputation system can now be built as well.
>>> >
>>> > Are there any good examples of implementations?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Liad Shababo <liad@???
>>> > <mailto:liad@shababo.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Doesn't make them trustworthy. It shows they value that identity
>>> and
>>> > would be hesitant to do anything to ruin it thereby rendering their
>>> > financial sacrifice meaningless
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>> >
>>> > On 19 May 2014, at 20:19, "Anthony D'Onofrio" <
>>> iamtexture@???
>>> > <mailto:iamtexture@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> How does lighting money on fire make someone trustworthy?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Peter Todd <pete@???
>>> >> <mailto:pete@petertodd.org>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 19 May 2014 16:39:06 CEST, Robert Williamson
>>> > <bobalot@??? <mailto:bobalot@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >>Doesn't op return outputs need to have a value of 0?
>>> >
>>> > No, they can be any value.
>>> >
>>> >>There's other concerns too. If we count someone as
>>> > trustworthy because
>>> >>they
>>> >>have sacrificed some amount of money to fees, its easy for
>>> > mining pools
>>> >>to
>>> >>start creating identities where a lot of fees are sacrificed to
>>> >>themselves.
>>> >
>>> > That's what I mean by fee sacrifices encouraging mining pool
>>> > centralisation. Right now I think that should rule out
>>> > sacrifice to fees completely.
>>> >
>>> >>
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