your video made me very happy and hopeful. keeping all your notes in mind
> wow, I'm continually impressed with your ability to express yourself as
> a not-completely native speaker of English. I read the text a few times,
> and it really deepens in its meaning.
>
> The way it guides you through going from how we the people are
> oppressed, to Bitcoin being swallowed in the machine, to the true nature
> behind Bitcoin, that it's a human system and finally that we are here to
> take back our freedom. goodbye.
> Love it very cool. You can even make it more pronounced. I only picked
> up some references on the 2nd reading (like the DNA thing) but maybe
> that's part of the charm of having a manifesto you discover more of each
> time making you think.
>
> Some minor points:
>
> > it; it’s under threat from those who do understand it, but fear it.
>
> *it's under threat from those who do understand it, but fear the
> consequences, those who take steps to preempt attacks by self-censoring,
> by moderating their actions.
>
> > falls on the same day that Roosevelt signed the 6102 executive order,
> which forbade the hoarding of gold.
>
> Have you seen this?
>
> https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Satoshi_Nakamoto#Motives
>
> Your text, I hope it becomes a video. I'd rather see this stuff on the
> top of the Bitcoin Reddit that shit like this:
>
>
> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/255asa/this_is_how_bitcoin_makes_an_impact/
>
> Really infuriates me. So this is the kind of world people want to
> promote? Girls who have nothing to offer except tits? Cmon so lame.
> We should be empowering cool girls who are doing stuff with Bitcoin.
> This is just a slap in the face to all those people like Elizabeth,
> Stephanie, .etc
>
> Well done on the writing, it cuts deep, and you have a good grasp on the
> issues. Where you write:
>
> > Bitcoin will give financial freedom back to the people.
>
> I think it can even go further with things like resource management,
> digital governance, decentralised law, and tools of trade / business. We
> support markets in all their forms (not just financial) and Bitcoin has
> big implications for markets and all these topics.
> Bitcoin is a tool which can enable new forms of association between
> humans to form, and enable new forms of business such as cooperative
> enterprise without bosses. It can empower self organised networks of
> people to work more efficiently and scale up. We've only touched the
> beginning of what's possible and there's far more to come.
> So freedom to transact is important, but just a first step in the
> possibilities of Bitcoin (which is much grander).
>
> my video:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX6NjkItne4
>
> On 09/05/14 20:04, Julia Tourianski wrote:
> > Much of this was inspired by the conversations that go on here. All
> > feedback welcome. Writing this for bitcoin magazine. Basically an
> > elaboration of my previous post:
> >
> >
> > The Declaration of Bitcoin’s Independence
> >
> > We have been brought to a point where it has become necessary to
> > dissolve the bond between currency and institution. We are not required
> > to declare the causes which impel us to push for the separation, but we
> > will oblige.
> >
> >
> > We hold these truths to be self-evident. We have been cyclically
> > betrayed, lied to, stolen from, extorted from, taxed, monopolized, spied
> > on, inspected, assessed, authorized, registered, deceived, and reformed.
> > We have been economically disarmed, disabled, held hostage,
> > impoverished, enervated, exhausted, and enslaved. And then there was
> > bitcoin.
> >
> >
> >
> > But we are in an age of appropriation, and nothing is immune. Today
> > bitcoin is not only volatile in its value, but in its very essence.
> > Bitcoin is in the crucial stages of development. Its code can evolve in
> > several directions. It’s under threat from those who don’t understand
> > it; it’s under threat from those who do understand it, but fear it.
> >
> >
> >
> > The crusade to absorb bitcoin into the seams of the State has begun.
> > There is a conscious effort to co-opt. The goal is to swallow bitcoin,
> > process it, intergrade it, devolve it, and keep it stagnant in the gears
> > of a failed operating system. Bitcoin’s potential is being hijacked.
> > They have their own idea of what they want bitcoin to be. They have
> > their own plan for its potential, and they have an investment in that
> > plan. But our consent is withdrawn and the power of our ideas is too
> strong.
> >
> >
> >
> > Do not underestimate DNA; nothing is born completely neutral. Follow the
> > protocol: it has anarchistic implications. Bitcoin is inherently
> > anti-establishment, anti-system, and anti-state. Bitcoin undermines
> > governments and disrupts institutions because bitcoin is fundamentally
> > humanitarian. There’s an elimination of 3^rd party intrusion. It’s
> > purely peer-to-peer. The blockchain is free speech. It’s decentralized,
> > voluntary, and non-aggressive. Bitcoin is not supposed to work within
> > our current mechanisms. Bitcoin needs not entities of authority to
> > acknowledge it, incorporate it, regulate it, and tax it. Bitcoin does
> > not ask permission.
> >
> >
> >
> > Bitcoin is an animal of anonymity. Bitcoin basks in shadow. Satoshi’s
> > facelessness is symbolic of this. Privacy is the point. Bitcoin is meant
> > to function outside of regulatory systems. It does not pander to power
> > structures, it undermines them. It is not a cog.
> >
> >
> >
> > Bitcoin means to channel economic power directly through the individual.
> > This is reflected by Satoshi’s symbolic birthday, which falls on the
> > same day that Roosevelt signed the 6102 executive order, which forbade
> > the hoarding of gold. We repeat. Bitcoin is not intended to be
> > integrated; it’s intended to be a ghost outside the machine.
> >
> >
> >
> > The voices of the people who are working to preserve the purity
> > bitcoin’s ethos are being drowned out. But actions speak louder than
> > words. Bitcoin is utility. The cypherpunks are building anonymous
> > systems. The crypto-anarchists are making institutions arbitrary. The
> > internet is anarchy. And cryptocurrencies are the printless fingers of
> > the internet.
> >
> >
> >
> > Bitcoin is not just a currency, a commodity, or a convenience. Just like
> > the printing press gave religion back to the people, just like the
> > internet gave information back to the people, Bitcoin will give
> > financial freedom back to the people. We declare bitcoin’s independence.
> > Bitcoin is sovereignty. Bitcoin is renaissance. Bitcoin is ours. Bitcoin
> > is.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 1:24 AM, Philip Glover <imphilipglover@???
> > <mailto:imphilipglover@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I think cryptocurrencies offer us a language to express value
> > through market action.
> >
> > It's awesome.
> >
> > On May 8, 2014 3:05 PM, "Michael Goldstein" <michael@???
> > <mailto:michael@bitstein.org>> wrote:
> >
> > "Technology embodies values. Satoshi had values."
> >
> > I thought Peter Todd summarized it quite nicely during the radio
> > discussion in Austin a couple weeks ago. Bitcoin as a technology
> > does not have political values, but its qualities are such that
> > to value Bitcoin to any degree (including not at all) is voicing
> > a political opinion. If Satoshi valued anything but individual
> > freedom of speech and association, he was really bad at voicing
> > that by creating a protocol like Bitcoin.
> >
> > I have argued here that as it stands, valuing Bitcoin is valuing
> > anarchism, regardless of how you want to label or rationalize
> > it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPY-5SR-jPQ
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???
> > <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>> wrote:
> >
> > Luke, I also respect your contributions and have advocated
> > your work
> > because I believe you come from the heart and your ideals.
> >
> > Our ideals are not this political affiliation or that
> > ideological dogma.
> > Our ideals are a shared set of values around openness,
> fairness,
> > empowerment of the common user and freedom of information.
> > These values
> > are the basis for the internet and why it's a success story.
> > They are
> > also the reasons why the printing press was able to reform
> > Europe taking
> > power away from corrupt catholic churches who had
> > institutionalised
> > their religion and turned it into a tool against actual
> > followers of god
> > who were being misled into following fake rules that were
> > added in by men.
> >
> > Today we now follow suited men who sell us false doctrine
> > and have
> > elevated themselves up as beyond mortal men with the mirage
> > that they
> > hold a secret knowledge or power that we as people don't
> > possess. When
> > Christ kicked the money changers from the temple and washed
> > the feet of
> > the poor, it was a statement about who we as people should
> > stand with.
> > They are thieving from us, the people, everyday and now
> > Bitcoin as tool
> > is going to bring back technology into our hands. And I'm
> > glad for that.
> >
> > So tell me, why should I embrace these white knights coming
> to
> > legitimise Bitcoin with their surveillance and censorship
> > palming it off
> > with their gibberish newspeak. These people are real
> > motherfuckers and
> > what motivates them primarily is greed at your expense.
> >
> > They don't see Bitcoin as empowerment. They see Bitcoin as
> > convenience,
> > and are willing to compromise the empowerment aspect for more
> > convenience. Bitcoin will grow, but the question is in which
> > direction.
> >
> > I'm confident that Bitcoin will play an established and
> > central role in
> > our future financial infrastructure. My objective now is to
> > maintain the
> > integrity long enough for Bitcoin's empowerment aspect to
> > play out, and
> > grow it in the right directions that give us the power. Just
> > like the
> > struggles now to keep the internet uncensored and neutral,
> > so too must
> > we struggle to keep Bitcoin uncensored and neutral.
> >
> > And it's funny because all this talk of Bitcoin as being
> > politically-neutral is a way of downplaying the values I've
> > been talking
> > about above. You can never be politically neutral. That's a
> > fantasy.
> > Technology embodies values. Satoshi had values.
> >
> > On 26/04/14 13:11, Luke-Jr wrote:
> > > Amir, I think you contribute much to bitcoin, and I value
> > that. But Bitcoin is
> > > *not* libertarianism. Bitcoin is *not* anarchism. Bitcoin
> > is *not*
> > > "volunteerism". Bitcoin is *not* a movement for financial
> > freedom - or any
> > > political movement at all. Bitcoin is a technology, which
> > can and should be
> > > embraced by people of any political affiliation. Adoption
> > by people with views
> > > contrary to your own is not an attack on Bitcoin, it is
> > growth.
> > >
> > > On Saturday, April 26, 2014 5:33:48 PM Amir Taaki wrote:
> > >> I get what you're doing, but we both know that really
> > isn't the case.
> > >> Allaire speaks from his heart, and they hired Mike Hearn.
> > >> I don't think we'll ever know the whole truth as that's
> > not how these
> > >> proprietary cultures work.
> > >> Check this quote by him:
> > >>
> > >> "A lot of the safeguards that businesses and consumers
> > take for granted
> > >> in their everyday interactions and payments don’t exist
> > in bitcoin [...]"
> > >>
> > >> or
> > >>
> > >> "if your goal is to ensure widespread adoption of
> > bitcoin, there needs
> > >> to be rules around its use, he says, arguing that it’s
> > not good enough
> > >> to imagine bitcoin can exist above society."
> > >>
> > >> This doesn't sound like descriptions of systems that
> > empower users to
> > >> self-regulate. This is the exact speech used behind many
> > surveillance
> > >> and censorship tools to push them on us. Things like
> > "anti-fraud"
> > >> blacklists or researching correlation techniques on
> > consumer activity.
> > >>
> > >> If this tech is developed it will be deployed or pushed
> > upon places like
> > >> Coinbase. Coinbase is the only business (or US?) in the
> > valley with a
> > >> banking relationship which they have due to a special
> > relationship with
> > >> JP Morgan and one of their bankers on their board.
> > >> And that's where these products that work against their
> > users will come
> > >> into play. Maybe the industry doesn't have enough balls,
> > and big Bitcoin
> > >> businesses with a large following (CoinBase, BitPay, ...
> > whoever) start
> > >> "self-regulating" by spying, tracking and censoring their
> > users.
> > >>
> > >> On 26/04/14 06:31, Peter Todd wrote:
> > >>> On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 10:37:11AM +0100, Amir Taaki
> wrote:
> > >>>> reducing the risk is newspeak for censorship
> > >>>>
> > >>>> protection against fraud is codeword for surveillance.
> > >>>
> > >>> Maybe it is; maybe it isn't.
> > >>>
> > >>> I hope Circle is just implementing all the decentralized
> > technologies
> > >>> we've been talking about for ages that let people chose
> > on their own
> > >>> terms how to reduce the risks involved in their
> > transactions; best case
> > >>> is all this talk about moving Bitcoin away from its
> > libertarian roots is
> > >>> just PR material. After all, Dark Market is an example
> > of that approach,
> > >>> yet could also be marketted as "bringing Bitcoin into
> > the mainstream
> > >>> with anti-fraud, lower costs, greater privacy safeguard,
> > and protection
> > >>> against identity theft".
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm not very hopeful that's the case, but lets hold off
> > on the torches
> > >>> and tar until they publish hard details on what exactly
> > they are doing.
> > >>>
> > >>>
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