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Auteur: Philip Glover
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Sujet: Re: [unSYSTEM] important: the process is what matters, not the endpoint
I agree completely, I am not suggesting that the individual should ever
look to the majority of his peers to determine proper or moral action.
There should be no decision making body, such as a parliament or Supreme
Court, to tell an individual what he must do or what is right.

I believe true community is developed and supported through peer-to-peer
interactions, or more simply, through personal relationships. It is through
these forms of voluntary association, with utmost respect for the
individual, that every member of a society can learn how to bring about
mutual benefit for both oneself and the group (or other individuals).
Therefore, it is the voluntary actions of individuals that the secure and
improve the future for the collective.

I see the peer-review of one's values, the act of seeking the perspective
of those you choose associate with, as a method to assist each individual
in staying true to his values in his actions.
On May 3, 2014 11:35 AM, "Amir Taaki" <genjix@???> wrote:

> No collective rule always leads to requiring consent from the majority
> and hence constrained by the lowest common denominator. From my
> experience communities which emphasise autonomy and individual freedom
> are ones which thrive. We should find ways to avoid and resolve conflict
> that don't require parliaments and tons of globally binding laws that
> regulate our lives - if you want to do something, you shouldn't need
> permission of the majority.
>
> Although community is important, as it's through our peers that we can
> achieve welfare and rise up stronger than we are alone. Indeed society
> itself is a life support network.
>
> On 03/05/14 19:09, Philip Glover wrote:
> > I believe this is best achieved with peer-review of one's actions. As
> > anarchs, we must exemplify self-rule, holding ourselves to higher,
> > self-determined standards than those offered by our current systems.
> >
> > Our trusted peers can keep us accountable with respect to the values we
> > share, and through this free association, we will protect the collective
> > by respecting each individual.
> >
> > On May 3, 2014 9:01 AM, "Thomas Hartman" <thomas@???
> > <mailto:thomas@standardcrypto.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Balancing autonomy and community. The eternal dilemma.

> >
> >     On May 3, 2014 7:55 AM, "יוסי ק" <y-kuba1@???
> >     <mailto:y-kuba1@hotmail.com>> wrote:

> >
> >         All this anarchy utopia shit sounds a little GAY and boring...
> >         but governments who runs strictly on algorithm with p2p network
> >         with no people in power positions who become  corrupt is COOL

> >
> >         Sent from my iPhone

> >
> >         On 3 May 2014, at 17:44, chiseeds@???
> >         <mailto:chiseeds@riseup.net> wrote:

> >
> >>         and diversity where people consent to be part of a system or
> >>         to use such
> >>         or such tools and services; not because there isn't other ways.

> >>
> >>>         responsibility, independence, understanding, assertiveness,
> >>>         creativity

> >>>
> >>>         On 03/05/14 09:08, Philip Glover wrote:
> >>>>         A world of mutual respect, responsibility, and liberty.

> >>>>
> >>>>         On May 2, 2014 10:04 PM, "Kristov Atlas"
> >>>>         <author@???
> >>>>         <mailto:author@anonymousbitcoinbook.com>
> >>>>         <mailto:author@anonymousbitcoinbook.com>> wrote:

> >>>>
> >>>>            A world of happy, healthy people who do not recognize the
> >>>>         claim of
> >>>>            thieves for a special moral category.

> >>>>
> >>>>            On 05/03/2014 12:20 AM, Anthony D'Onofrio wrote:
> >>>>>            "we promote the world we want to see."

> >>>>>
> >>>>>            What world is that?

> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>            On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Damian
> >>>>>         <i3inary@??? <mailto:i3inary@gmail.com>
> >>>>>            <mailto:i3inary@gmail.com>> wrote:

> >>>>>
> >>>>>                i've been on many journeys and very few ever have a
> >>>>>                destination that is better than the journey itself.
> >>>>>          meditate
> >>>>>                during the journey and get stoked so you can create
> >>>>>         an awesome
> >>>>>                experience for yourself and everyone you are with.
> >>>>>          daily
> >>>>>                meditation to focus on principles/ideas/creativity
> >>>>>         keeps your
> >>>>>                gps nicely calibrated.

> >>>>>
> >>>>>                i believe anarchy is in harmony with nature/math (and
> >>>>>                therefore a good focus of meditation) because this
> >>>>>         reality at
> >>>>>                the quantum level is just probability and anarchy is a
> >>>>>                practice that allows for the greatest variety of
> >>>>>                manifestations.  focusing on things that are in
> >>>>>         harmony with
> >>>>>                nature always gets better results.

> >>>>>
> >>>>>                in the end anarchy and peaceful practices are
> >>>>>         enhancing life
> >>>>>                to create a better experience for everyone.

> >>>>>
> >>>>>                i get stoked on that!

> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>                On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Amir Taaki
> >>>>>         <genjix@??? <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>
> >>>>>                <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>> wrote:

> >>>>>
> >>>>>                    anarchism is what we strive towards & is a body
> >>>>>         of thought.
> >>>>>                    it is not a utopia, it is about the values we
> >>>>>         would like
> >>>>>                    to promote.
> >>>>>                    i don't know the right way, nobody does.
> >>>>>                    but we can look and try to strive forwards.
> >>>>>                    we will never get there. oppression will always
> >>>>>         exist.
> >>>>>                    we promote the world we want to see.
> >>>>>                    fight the power, stick it to the man. you are
> >>>>>         sovereign.
> >>>>>                    there is no greater good. there are people. you,
> >>>>>         your
> >>>>>                    friends, your comrades.
> >>>>>                    we are strong. we are all rightful owners and
> >>>>>         heirs of the
> >>>>>                    planet.
> >>>>>                    you are a sovereign individual. we can create
> >>>>>         the change
> >>>>>                    we want to see.

> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>                    _______________________________________________
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> >>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>                _______________________________________________
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> >>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>            --
> >>>>>            --
> >>>>>            Anthony D'Onofrio
> >>>>>            iamtexture@??? <mailto:iamtexture@gmail.com>
> >>>>>         <mailto:iamtexture@gmail.com>
> >>>>>            501.681.3225 <tel:501.681.3225> <tel:501.681.3225
> >>>>>         <tel:501.681.3225>>
> >>>>>            -
> >>>>>            Chaos Collider - Dream. Design. Develop. Deploy.
> >>>>>            http://www.chaoscollider.com
> >>>>>            -
> >>>>>            Peace.Love.Human.
> >>>>>            http://www.peacelovehuman.org

> >>>>>
> >>>>>            "Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself
> >>>>>         what makes
> >>>>>            you come alive and then go do that. Because what the
> >>>>>         world needs
> >>>>>            is people who have come alive." - Howard Thurman

> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>            _______________________________________________
> >>>>>            unSYSTEM mailing list: http://unsystem.net

> >>>>>
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