> Linards, I see that wasn't addressed to myself. Sorry about answering
> as though it was.
>
> On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Linards Berzins
> <linardsberzins@???> wrote:
> > your joking right?
> >
> >
> > On 25 April 2014 23:44, Robert Jakob <rsjakob@???> wrote:
> >>
> >> So I realize I'm a little late to the party, but I just read through
> this
> >> feed. I feel compelled to say if you're going to start a decentralized
> P2P
> >> black market selling drugs, guns, and things I probably can't even
> imagine
> >> rule number one should be: Thou shalt not capitulate.
> >>
> >> Besides the inherent anarchist ideals it really doesn't matter what you
> >> name it. If you're selling drugs and guns there is no amount of
> positive
> >> spin or marketing trickery you can do to make it "acceptable" for the
> >> general public. The black market has existed long before the internet
> and
> >> will always exist outside of mainstream society. I mean really, what
> are
> >> you guys hoping for? Corporate sponsorship?
> >>
> >> -Robert
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> well also there's this attitude that Bitcoin is a company like Twitter
> >>> or Facebook, and it's a payments innovation for buying food or drink in
> >>> place of credit cards.
> >>>
> >>> Truth is that Bitcoin is a core technology akin to wheel or printing
> >>> press, and cannot be stopped. The tech goes way beyond simple A->B
> >>> payments, and instead reaches far deeper into how humans organise and
> >>> assemble together by giving us a new wide-ranging toolkit that we can
> >>> apply for creating new forms of trade and business online. I'm talking
> >>> about the many crypto features inside and spurned by Bitcoin that
> >>> haven't yet been exploited.
> >>>
> >>> Bitcoin does not need to win favour from anybody. But what is important
> >>> is to protect the consensus inside Bitcoin which is responsible for
> >>> maintaining it's integrity and principles as a technology. That
> >>> consensus is responsible for how Bitcoin evolves. I believe Bitcoin
> will
> >>> be dominant, and the lock-in so big that whatever Bitcoin becomes, we
> >>> will be stuck with. Therefore it's vital that we maintain it as a free
> >>> market technology open and equal for all.
> >>>
> >>> A Bitcoin surrounded by a proprietary ecosystem owned by industry who
> >>> spends their resources to create software that imposes their limits on
> >>> us, while allowing (or gaining) them participation in a "legit" market
> >>> is not a free Bitcoin, and one which oppresses its users. There are
> many
> >>> very subtle decisions that we take now that have long term effects on
> >>> how Bitcoin evolves. And it's the sum of these 1000 small decisions
> that
> >>> really determines the outcome of Bitcoin. There's no threat from the
> >>> system. We are the system.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRAYT2gaAqw
> >>>
> >>> On 25/04/14 14:15, Robert Williamson wrote:
> >>> > Most people can't code.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > I know that and I know it sounds elitist to say "just code your own",
> >>> > perhaps it's just my perception that people in the community are less
> >>> > willing to talk about the politics and technology and are only
> >>> > concerned
> >>> > about "making Bitcoin look good" so they can make a good return.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On 25 April 2014 19:05, Anthony D'Onofrio <iamtexture@???
> >>> > <mailto:iamtexture@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Most people can't code. And in general have no idea how to make
> >>> > things happen. So they're just appealing to authority for change,
> >>> > because that's what they've been raised to do and they don't know
> >>> > any better.
> >>> >
> >>> > The barriers to freedom don't live in a gun, an army, or a state.
> >>> > No
> >>> > piece of technology can unleash us. I've said it before - there
> is
> >>> > only one freedom, freedom of the mind. Until that is taken as
> >>> > gospel, people will keep building chains and prisons out of the
> >>> > tools provided for liberation.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Apr 25, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Robert Williamson <
> bobalot@???
> >>> > <mailto:bobalot@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> It's a little amusing it ended up with as many upvotes as it
> >>> >> did.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> It shows the unfortunate state of the /r/bitcoin community
> though,
> >>> >> it's the second most upvoted post this week about fear of a
> colour
> >>> >> or name.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> No one has posted their own decentralised market showing where
> >>> >> they've made improvements and called it whatever they want.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> What else are we going to call a product that can most likely be
> >>> >> used for "illicit purposes"? "Silk Road" sounds like a nice name
> >>> >> for a website pre-2011, reminding people of the cultural trade
> >>> >> route.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Even if DarkMarket was called "Lovely Butterfly Road" it would
> >>> >> probably eventually be tainted bad by the media.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On 25 April 2014 18:35, Adam B. Levine <
> adam@???
> >>> >> <mailto:adam@letstalkbitcoin.com>> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Your project, your call (until somebody forks it!) but words
> >>> >> do matter.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> It's a little amusing it ended up with as many upvotes as it
> >>> >> did.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Adam B. Levine
> >>> >> Editor-in-Chief
> >>> >> Let's Talk Bitcoin! <http://www.letstalkbitcoin.com/>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Amir Taaki <
> genjix@???
> >>> >> <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/23vo5s/petition_to_change_the_name_of_dark_market_to/
> >>> >>
> >>> >> comments I wrote for the reddit crowd:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> People need to stop being afraid and reclaim these words
> >>> >> of power used
> >>> >> to control us. The Dark name evokes great imagery and
> >>> >> sounds cool. It's
> >>> >> like when they used to call us pirates to shame us and
> the
> >>> >> pirate party
> >>> >> stood up and said "yeah! we are pirates!". There were
> many
> >>> >> internet
> >>> >> freedom parties before and they got nowhere. Our team is
> >>> >> not here to fit
> >>> >> in nicely with the status quo- we are here to challenge
> >>> >> it.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> -------
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Anybody who disagrees with my outlook is free to pick
> up a
> >>> >> compiler. If
> >>> >> you're bothered enough then create the change you want
> to
> >>> >> see. Don't try
> >>> >> to make dictates to opensource coders through public
> peer
> >>> >> pressure
> >>> >> campaigns. This thread is lazy activism at its finest.
> >>> >> It's hilarious
> >>> >> that people give so much energy to this over the actual
> >>> >> thread about the
> >>> >> project itself.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> If you sit on your arse complaining about names on
> Reddit,
> >>> >> then your
> >>> >> insights are worthless. Get to work!
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Stay true to yourself.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On 25/04/14 08:40, n wrote:
> >>> >> > OMG this made my day ! Amir thank you, keep it up
> >>> >> > On 4/25/2014 6:56 AM, Chris Pacia wrote:
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> We need to give Amir a lesson in firearm safety :p
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> upvote this vid plz for visibility,
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/23vo5s/petition_to_change_the_name_of_dark_market_to/ch1e6qb
> >>> >> >>
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